House electrical troubleshooting?

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Here's the situation: we have a ceiling fan/light in the living room that quit lighting up about two weeks ago. I changed the lightbulb and that didn't "fix" it. I installed a new fan (the $20 special at Home Depot) and it still doesn't work. After that I cycled the breaker and still nada. FWIW the breaker is only 1 1/2 years old and everything else on that circuit still works fine. Where should I look next?
 

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jvencius said:
Where should I look next?

Switch.

Get a 120V tester, see if you have power at the switch, if not the problem lies between the switch and the breaker. If you do have power at the switch, turn it on and see if there is power at the fan. If no power at fan then either the switch is faulty or you have some bad wire between the two.
 

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Thing is, the fan is controlled by two separate switches--maybe I'll just replace both of them and see what happens. :dunno

do you have the two-way switch. i had similar problem. screwed me up for days. had to ask a pro. one switch may be bad. check both. make sure wiring is done correctly to the switches.
 

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I have had a similar problem. I pulled the switch out and found the wires were pushed into the quick install holes in the back of the swich. When I relocated them to the screws on the side of the switch the fan/light worked fine.


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I could type for days, but I s#$% at typing so lets narrow down the problem:

If your setup has two switches, one for the fan, one for the fan light, then it should be wired as follows:
Black to Black -fan motor
Red to Blue - fan light
White to white
Green to bare

#1 use a meter, if you don't have one, at least spend $10 on a cheap one. I want your to read voltage between the black (hot) wire and neutral (white) wire at the fan box.

If you have 120V black to white, proceed to #2
If you do not have 120V black to white, but do black to bare, proceed to #3

#2 If your fan is switched separate from the fan light, use a meter to determine if there is 120V on the load side of the switch, if not replace. If there is not on the line side, follow line wire to it's source in the same box and check the connection. It could be the "quick" wiring.

#3 sounds like a lost neutral (white wire) check the connection at the fan, also at the switch, also at all the other outlets in the room, and adjoining rooms. The outlets (plugs) will be on the same circuit, and usually the plug closest to the switch inside the room, or the plug closest to the switch outside the room are where the power comes from to the switch itself. As tbar already stated, residential sparky's are known for being lazy and using cheap materials. They often use the cheapest receptacles they can find, and "quick" wire them in the stab in holes on the back. This leads to nothing but problems down the road as the entire circuit down stream depends on a very lousy connection- tension between the two, that arcs and eventually is no longer connected and fails.

PS 80 or even 90 volts doesn't count.

PS #2 It's called a 3 way switch not a 2 way. It could easily be wired wrong, if it is I'll guide you through the steps to correct it.
 

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It's fixed and I only got tickled once (apparently the switch is NOT on the same breaker as everything else in the room :eek: ). There were 2 3-way switches that ran the fan (one that looked nearly as old as dirt and one that looked pretty new) but I swapped 'em both just to be safe and now the fan/light both work. Thanks to all for your help--if I had to call an electrician that's $80 out of my beer fund and we can't have that... :rolleyes: :D
 

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Make sure all your 3 ways work in all the positions form every side, if not let me know and I'll tell ya what to change.
 

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