Bigboytoys
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Yep and I'm tossing all that cool emission stuff for a full spartan kit to get back some mileage. It'll look real pretty on my wall of shame and breakage.
Why'd they dump it?
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Veryillusive
SDD Junior Member
So What are we going to expect in 2011 when the 6.7 comes out. Hmmm, greater EPA restrictions, bigger engine, awe! Less fuel mileage. Let's promote diesel clean burn and fuel effeciencies. What would be great is a 20+mpg truck, I forgot we use to have that a couple of years ago. I think we are peddling backwards here.
Scooter
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Part of the reason that the EPA is getting so silly with the regulations is that they are trying to mandate the trucks out of existence. If it is tougher and tougher to get big trucks that meet the guidelines, it will be less likely that they will be able to manufacture them at a sustainable cost, thus, more people will buy smaller cars.
Of course, this does not take into account the people that actually use the trucks to tow on a regular basis, and use them the way they were originally designed.
Of course, this does not take into account the people that actually use the trucks to tow on a regular basis, and use them the way they were originally designed.
Government Conspiracy? Now you're speaking my language..
the "people that tow on a regular basis" are an endangered species as well.
Camping out of a 5th wheel?
they want you camping out of a tent and burying your poop like a cat..
Horses? You inhumane monster.. making a poor animal drag you around on it's back (note that horses are NOT mandated to bury THEIR poop).
Race car? Waste of resources and contributon to smog, ozone depletion and global warming.
Live on a farm? You should be ashamed of youself for keeping your animals enslaved in order to propogate the falsehood humans need cow's milk and beef to survive.. Double curse you if you de-beak chickens..
Get ready for about 8 years of complete hippie-dom...
Fine69
Senior Member
Government Conspiracy? Now you're speaking my language..
the "people that tow on a regular basis" are an endangered species as well.
Camping out of a 5th wheel?
they want you camping out of a tent and burying your poop like a cat..
Horses? You inhumane monster.. making a poor animal drag you around on it's back (note that horses are NOT mandated to bury THEIR poop).
Race car? Waste of resources and contributon to smog, ozone depletion and global warming.
Live on a farm? You should be ashamed of youself for keeping your animals enslaved in order to propogate the falsehood humans need cow's milk and beef to survive.. Double curse you if you de-beak chickens..
Get ready for about 8 years of complete hippie-dom...
Not if we get smart and vote his Socialist Azz out!!!
Here's the 4 Major reasons why "They Dumped It"
1. Totally Out of Control, unattainable, EPA Smog requirements . (like what JLD said)
2. FOMOCO said most of the Warranty related engine repair issues were NAVISTAR's fault... for re-reimbursement
3. NAVISTAR said most of the Warranty related engine repair issues were FOMOCO's fault... for re-embursement.
4. Totally Out of Control, unattainable, EPA Smog requirements. (like what JLD said)
1. Totally Out of Control, unattainable, EPA Smog requirements . (like what JLD said)
2. FOMOCO said most of the Warranty related engine repair issues were NAVISTAR's fault... for re-reimbursement
3. NAVISTAR said most of the Warranty related engine repair issues were FOMOCO's fault... for re-embursement.
4. Totally Out of Control, unattainable, EPA Smog requirements. (like what JLD said)
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Jerry Criswell
SDD Junior Member
Global warming has been proven to be a hoax, but it took us 25 years to get where we are, so it will take another 25 years to roll it back.
JC
JC
powerboatr
living well in Texas
not sure about the new ford engine, but i expect it to mirror the cummins.
cummins 8.3 and 6.7 gain about 15 hp for next year using the dpf and urea injection
the cummins guy said the engine breathes better, will have extended oil changes 10k up from 7500, and the exhaust is LESS restrictive than previous years. plus they gained 3-5 % better mpg, which doesn't sound like much...
i pull 7.9-8.5 in the rv so a small gain would put me close to the magic 10.
and like many gas powered vehicles the air going out will be cleaner than what comes in, which should be a plus for air restrictive states like MASS, Cally and the like
i know in our rv the 8.3 has never emitted smoke and the exhaust smells like propane mixed with eggs
with a weird sweet taste and is HOT HOT HOT the chrome tailpipe is turning colors
I knew you older guys were a little tetched, but licking the tailpipe of an RV is a new one one me...i know in our rv the 8.3 has never emitted smoke and the exhaust smells like propane mixed with eggs
and is HOT HOT HOT the chrome tailpipe is turning colors
