DaveBen
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My guess is that they have all they can handle with the engine line up that they have. Light trucks are a bigger headache than anything they currently have.
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02SilverStroke
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All current Ford Super Duties with automatic transmissions have a built in dash mounted transmission temperature gauge in place of the ammeter. My 02 model has it, and I'm sure that started with the 99's. The competition will only get better when Ford has their F-150 diesel in 2009 or 2010 as currently planned. I like the looks of the new Tundras and believe that Toyota has finally made a full size truck, but Ford's still the best IMHO!!!! Speaking of comparing Tundras to the domestic 1/2 tons, the new Toyota dealer in McKinney, Texas has purchased new F-150's, Silverados, Dodge Rams, and Titans and has dismantled the trucks and displaying only the frames on his showroom floor alongside the Tundra in an attempt to prove that the Tundra has a stronger frame than the others. His plan is to reassemble the trucks later and sell them as used vehicles.
Digital Oxygen
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OK, let's break this down since no one has for the first few posters who seem confused about weight and the like.
1. Curb Weight - This is how much the truck weighs, empty. No payload no passengers, full tank of fuel. - or was it 1/2 a tank.. I can't remember now.
2. CVWR = Gross Vehicle Weight Rating - This is how much the truck can weigh with a payload in the back of the truck, fuel and passengers. In other words, the TOTAL ammount of weight there can be on both axles.
3. GCVWR = Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating - This is how much your loaded truck, fuel, passengers AND trailer can weigh all together. The pin weight should not exceed payload weight.
4. Payload - this is how much weight you can put in the bed of the truck. This does not include passengers.
I am embarassed to admit this, but I do not know what the GCVWR is for my F250. The most I've GCVWR I've weighed was about 19400lbs. 8900 for the truck, 6500 trailer (heavy assed gooseneck) and 4000lb car. The truck seemed to handle the weight just fine.
1. Curb Weight - This is how much the truck weighs, empty. No payload no passengers, full tank of fuel. - or was it 1/2 a tank.. I can't remember now.
2. CVWR = Gross Vehicle Weight Rating - This is how much the truck can weigh with a payload in the back of the truck, fuel and passengers. In other words, the TOTAL ammount of weight there can be on both axles.
3. GCVWR = Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating - This is how much your loaded truck, fuel, passengers AND trailer can weigh all together. The pin weight should not exceed payload weight.
4. Payload - this is how much weight you can put in the bed of the truck. This does not include passengers.
I am embarassed to admit this, but I do not know what the GCVWR is for my F250. The most I've GCVWR I've weighed was about 19400lbs. 8900 for the truck, 6500 trailer (heavy assed gooseneck) and 4000lb car. The truck seemed to handle the weight just fine.
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Toyota has been making diesels for years. They mad a diesel Landcrusier but you couldn't get it in the states. Toyota has made diesels for BMW's since about 2000, at a rate of about 30,000 a year. BMW is pulling the plug in 2008. Keep in mind none of these are large truck diesels but mostly cars.
BMW is probably going with Ford/Peugot developed diesel?
http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/05/17/mini_to_drop_toyota_diesel_in_2008
BMW is probably going with Ford/Peugot developed diesel?
http://www.motoringfile.com/2004/05/17/mini_to_drop_toyota_diesel_in_2008
DaveBen
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I drove a Diesel Landcruiser in Costa Rica many years ago and it was a DOG. 50 MPH was all it would go.
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BamaSixGun
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did you copy this straight out of the owner's manual?
BTW, no confusion here, i own four peterbilt car haulers, i know all about weight, i have the overweight tickets to show for it.
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Digital Oxygen
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No I didn't copy it from anywhere. Its just terminology anyone who tows anything should know. I don't have a semi, but I know on an 80K over the road truck, the weight should be split 12K on the steers, 34K over the drivers, and 34 over the trailer axles. And no book to copy that from anyways. I dont have an owner's manual for my 250.
BamaSixGun
SDD Super Mod/Staff
was just havin some fun with ya, your right on it with the weight of an 80k truck.
its so hard to haul anything and stay under gross, and you can be under gross and still over on any axle, and they will still give you a ticket.
i hate the DOT -mad
addicted
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It seems that maybe they are mixing terms on some of the commercials then. But either way I didn't know about the ford light duties comming out in 2009 2010. I read an article about Dodge comming out with a couple in that time frame. I would be super stoked if Ford did that. Maybe I could finally convince my dad to get rid of the Tundra Gasser and get a real truck with a blue oval. Hahah
Thank you for that explanation though. I don't do a ton of towing so never really new the proper use of those terms.
