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he said it wont start at all,if the gpr or gp's were bad,it would just take a few cranks,which would make it puff white,but eventually the friction of the pistons would create more then enough heat to fire it up,so i dont think those mentioned is the problem,they could be contributing to it,but not the whole problem,thats my opinion anyway.
 

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I would check the GPR. Take a test light to it and see if you are getting voltage across it when you turn when you turn the key to activate the glow plugs. They should stay on for about two minutes. I would also check the PCM fuse under the hood. Has the truck been starting harder as it has gotten colder or did this issue happen overnight?

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THANKS-ALL OF YOU! IT IS STILL NOT STARTING, ALMOST DID A BIT OF WHITE SMOKE-BUT JUST CRANKING OVER. I REPLACED THE CPS, BATTERIES,
AS FOR THE GPR? WHEN IM TURNING IT OVER I HERE A CLICKING IN THE DASH, LIKE SOME KIND OF RELAY CLICKING., ? GPR- ARE THOSE AT THE TOP OF THE MOTOR? (NEW TO THIS, BUT NOT AFRAID TO TRY).
AGAIN-THANKS-ALL OF YOU. NBFCJY
 

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I HOOKED MY VOLT METER UP TO THE RELAY(S), THEY ARE GETTING VOLTAGE. ITS GETTING HARD TO WORK ON RIGHT NOW...ITS RAINING AND SNOWING - AT A LOSS RIGHT NOW....
 

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I ALSO NOTICED THAT WHEN IT DID START LAST WEEK, IT KNOCKED AND SOUNDED LIKE IT WAS REALLY OUT OF SYNC, AFTER IT WARMED UP FOR 10 MINUTES, IT WAS IN PERFECT. I DID SOME RUNNING AROUND-ABOUT 45 MINUTES, SHUT IT OFF AND IT DID START AFTER ABOUT 1/2 HOUR OF SITTING.
 

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VOICE HOMOGINATION AFFECTS OVER 100 PEOPLE YEARLY WORLDWIDE. IT IS A SERIOUS CONFLITION WHERE PEOPLE SUFFER FROM THE CAPS LOCK BUTTON.

id try pulling the fuel filter and cleaning the bowl out and then a new filter w some anti gel additive.

or check gpr and glow plugs like this

Thought I'd post this as a sticky thread now that cold weather is on us.

How to check Glow Plug System

To check the Glow Plug Relay (GPR)
· Be sure the engine is cold, so that the PCM will tell the GPR to turn on. If the engine is hot, you won’t have as much time to check.
· Locate the GPR – Its behind the fuel filter on top of the engine, a little bit toward the passenger side of the valley. There may be two relays there. If so, the rear one is the GPR. It will have two fairly large wires (yellow and brown) connected to one of the large posts.
· With your multitmeter set to DC volts, and 15 V range (if not autoranging), clip the positive (red) lead to the output terminal (with yellow and brown wires connected), and the negative (black) lead to a good ground point (like the battery ground terminal or someplace metal directly on the engine block.)
· Turn the key to ON (do not start)
· If your GPR is good, it should click, and you’ll see 11 volts or so on your meter, then, depending on temperature, it will click off up to 2 minutes later. You should do this a couple of times to make sure it consistently makes the connection.
· If you don’t get voltage with this test, confirm by retesting as follows.
· Remove the two small wires from the smaller two of the four GPR terminals.
· With jumper wires, apply voltage from the battery across the two small terminals. If your voltmeter now reads voltage on the output terminal, your GPR is OK, and your problem is in the PCM circuit that tells the GPR to activate.

To check Glow Plugs.
· Remove the electrical connector on the inboard side of valve cover at the gasket. Press down on the top of the connector latch and pry gently with a screwdriver. Photo of disconnecting one and another Photo of it loose.
· There will be 9 pins on the valve cover gasket where you removed the connector. The two pins furthest forward and the two pins furthest back are for your glow plugs.
· With your multimeter set to resistance (ohms) and low range (single digits) if not autoranging, clip the negative (black) lead to a good ground point.
· Probe each of the 4 outer pins individually with the positive (red) lead, noting the resistance. Good glow plugs will have a resistance between 0.6 and 2 ohms. If you get infinite resistance on any glow plug, that one is either bad or the connector under the valve cover has come loose.
 
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wait to start light died

Hi if any one can help i have a 1999 ford F-250 sd 7.3 i had a ***** of a time starting it . it was plugged in after about two times the wait to start light does not come on any more I follow the tips on checking the GPR and replaced it still not working getting ready to order new pcm any ?
 
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Check your fuse #30 under the dash. Mine blowed and the fuel heater was shorted causing the WTS light not to come on or even start. If it is blown unhook the connector going to the heater on the fuel bowl. Then go to International and get one that actually works.
INTERNATIONAL # 1831196c92 for a 98-02 heavy duty fuel heater element. If that is the year of your truck. I just got one from Nashville International dealer took 2 days and less than $27.00.
 

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Check your fuse #30 under the dash. Mine blowed and the fuel heater was shorted causing the WTS light not to come on or even start. If it is blown unhook the connector going to the heater on the fuel bowl. Then go to International and get one that actually works.
INTERNATIONAL # 1831196c92 for a 98-02 heavy duty fuel heater element. If that is the year of your truck. I just got one from Nashville International dealer took 2 days and less than $27.00.

did that thing just drop in??
 
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