Start/No Start then Start/No Start. Not Fuel Filters...

[bismic1]

Since a fuel pressure sensor was never installed at the factory, you can not get fuel pressure from the scan tool.

You need the following PIDs when cranking (obviously when it isn't starting):
cam/crank sync
FICM sync
rpms
fuel pulse width
FICM MPower
FICM LPower
ICP pressure
ICP sensor volts
IPR % duty cycle
V-reference voltage

Also need it scanned for codes and the code numbers posted.

 

[BigMook89508]

Since a fuel pressure sensor was never installed at the factory, you can not get fuel pressure from the scan tool.

You need the following PIDs when cranking (obviously when it isn't starting):
cam/crank sync
FICM sync
rpms
fuel pulse width
FICM MPower
FICM LPower
ICP pressure
ICP sensor volts
IPR % duty cycle
V-reference voltage

Also need it scanned for codes and the code numbers posted.

Okay. It looks like I can set up one of the screens to displays those and I will scan codes. I will do that tomorrow.

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[BigMook89508]

Since a fuel pressure sensor was never installed at the factory, you can not get fuel pressure from the scan tool.

You need the following PIDs when cranking (obviously when it isn't starting):
cam/crank sync
FICM sync
rpms
fuel pulse width
FICM MPower
FICM LPower
ICP pressure
ICP sensor volts
IPR % duty cycle
V-reference voltage

Also need it scanned for codes and the code numbers posted.

My FORScan has the hs/ms switch. Until approved I cannot search the forum. But Google search makes me suspect that due to the year 2004 of my F350 5.0L diesel I should be in HS? That for the year there is no ms? Is this correct? I am just trying to get this right the first time

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[BigMook89508]

My FORScan has the hs/ms switch. Until approved I cannot search the forum. But Google search makes me suspect that due to the year 2004 of my F350 5.0L diesel I should be in HS? That for the year there is no ms? Is this correct? I am just trying to get this right the first time

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Disregard.

I found an article. HS is High Priority things like the PCMs and engine issues along with some other things.

MS are lower priority things like parking lamps seat heaters and junk like that.

Please correct me though if am reading the article wrong.

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[bismic1]

HS is fine

 

[BigMook89508]

Since a fuel pressure sensor was never installed at the factory, you can not get fuel pressure from the scan tool.

You need the following PIDs when cranking (obviously when it isn't starting):
cam/crank sync
FICM sync
rpms
fuel pulse width
FICM MPower
FICM LPower
ICP pressure
ICP sensor volts
IPR % duty cycle
V-reference voltage

Also need it scanned for codes and the code numbers posted.

Here is the information from the DTC scan of the truck and the live data while cranking. I can provide screenshots of the DTC codes if you need them.

FORScan Cranking Data 2004 F350 – 6.0L Diesel (No Start Issue) While Cranking Engine

FICM SYNC = YES

FUEL PW, MS = 0

FICM_LPWR, V = 12.00

FICM_MPWR, V = 48.00

ICP, V= 0.17 Key On and 0.24 While Cranking

ICP, PSI = 0

ICP_DES, PSI = 1849.8

IPR % = 84.77

VREF, V = 4.98

RPM, 1/MIN = 1.62

ARP MDES, 1/MIN = 0

RPM, 1/MIN = 161

RPM.OBDII, 1/MIN = 163

RPM.TCM, 1/ MIN = 161

RPM.OBDII, 1/ MIN = 157

SYNC = YES



DTM CODES DURING INITIAL SCAN AT FORScan startup

P2290
P1832
P132B
P0261
P2291
P0404
B1342
P0528
B1483
P1876
C1728
U1262
P2287
B1360
B1352


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[BigMook89508]

Here is the information from the DTC scan of the truck and the live data while cranking. I can provide screenshots of the DTC codes if you need them.

FORScan Cranking Data 2004 F350 – 6.0L Diesel (No Start Issue) While Cranking Engine

FICM SYNC = YES

FUEL PW, MS = 0

FICM_LPWR, V = 12.00

FICM_MPWR, V = 48.00

ICP, V= 0.17 Key On and 0.24 While Cranking

ICP, PSI = 0

ICP_DES, PSI = 1849.8

IPR % = 84.77

VREF, V = 4.98

RPM, 1/MIN = 1.62

ARP MDES, 1/MIN = 0

RPM, 1/MIN = 161

RPM.OBDII, 1/MIN = 163

RPM.TCM, 1/ MIN = 161

RPM.OBDII, 1/ MIN = 157

SYNC = YES



DTM CODES DURING INITIAL SCAN AT FORScan startup

P2290
P1832
P132B
P0261
P2291
P0404
B1342
P0528
B1483
P1876
C1728
U1262
P2287
B1360
B1352


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I figured I would add the screenshots anyway. I feel like for all the help I need to gove as much info as possible.

Should the ICP, PSI have been 0 while cranking? Thanks so much for the guidance

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[bismic1]

Wow. Your attention to detail is great. We don't always see that!!

The first thing to focus on is that you have no pressure in the high-pressure oil system, even though the IPR valve is commanded to be completely closed. TYPICALLY, if the IPR valve is the issue, you wil at least have 150-200 psig from the ICP sensor.

The ICP sensor looks ok from the KOEO voltage. This is not a 100% certain test for the health of the sensor, but it is a "first-level" test. The second level test is to try starting with the ICP sensor disconnected. You can even run with the sensor disconnected.

So at this moment, until you try running with the sensor disconnected, I am going to assume that the sensor is probably good and that you have a big leak in the high pressure oil system OR the HPOP has failed.

Are you familiar with pressure testing the high pressure oil system?

 

[bismic1]

In addition to the issues with the igh-pressure oil pressure, you have an issue with the turbo system (and controls):

P0132B detail below:

P132B is a code related to the calibration from the recall 06E17 (part of the Inferred EBP strategy). It means that there is a problem with the VGT system. P132B is a fault code that is set if the required boost levels are not achieved during a learn cycle or at specific speed fuel demand points. This code indicates that there are issues with the turbocharger, MAF sensor, MAP sensor/hose, IAT2 sensor, intake leaks, or exhaust leaks, etc. Frequently it is a sticking turbo issue. This code can also throw a P0401 EGR code.
On vehicles built before Sept 29, 2003 (PCM ignores EBP sensor input and infers the value from the MAP and MAF sensors). On these vehicles, the MAF is used for fuel correction. The PCM will learn MAP and MAF and then learn the VGT action by cycling the VGT duty cycle in steps from 85% to 0%, and then back up, again in steps. It will learn the MAP and MAF action during this process. It takes 6 cycles to learn the VGT. P132b will be set if the PCM determines that there is something wrong with what it learned for MAP and MAF as it relates to VGT duty cycle.

 

[bismic1]

Also, the P0261 code is important, It means:

#1 Injector - Circuit Low (open circuit): FICM has detected an open injector circuit. Injector circuit open or defective coil.

Please CLOSELY inspect the wiring and connector to injector #1.