B100

[powerboatr]

antonio
yep i read about new holland,
then i read
fuel
as surprised that b100 is really pretty good based on the astm spec.
cetane is bit off at 47 but i have seen #2 in that range to in winter.
so in my mind it should be a no brainer other than the intial possibility of fuel filter changing.

 

[roosterdiesel]

The filters is a BIG thing and that's what my vendor told me all of their problem calls have been about.

 

[hheynow]

so all you guys running b100? i need some understanding here

I really can't say what possesed me to become "drunk" on B-100. I'm well past warrenty , a diesel injection master tech told me it was bad for my injectors, it's more expensive than dino and it's hard to find. On the other hand...I'm off of the oil grid, I'm supporting the local economy, I'm not contributing to acid rain, my exhaust is not toxic anymore. I see no bad effects so far with my injectors and feel I'm doing the right thing. What am I missing?

 

[powerboatr]

exactly
lots of folks are running it, filters are a given,
is big oil holding back the engine guys????
me being a tree hugger of sorts, am really looking forward to this source of fuel, I like to drive a heavy truck and pull my RV,

have you seen any OTR guys using b100?
Volvo was pretty set on NO, which surprises me.

 

[Tx_Atty]

we should ask some of the injector vendors here if they have any experience with bio and whether they are aware of any negative effects...

 

[hheynow]

is big oil holding back the engine guys????

I see a good analogy here. For hundreds of years ship line was made from hemp, a natural fiber. It was a great product. When DuPont invented nylon 75-85 years ago they lobbied congress to outlaw hemp. Big business has a way to insure their products remain profitable.

 

[roosterdiesel]

exactly
lots of folks are running it, filters are a given,
is big oil holding back the engine guys????
me being a tree hugger of sorts, am really looking forward to this source of fuel, I like to drive a heavy truck and pull my RV,

have you seen any OTR guys using b100?
Volvo was pretty set on NO, which surprises me.

Big Oil has their hand in everything IMO.


My vendor runs it in their OTR truck, one is an owner/operator besides the biodiesel outfit. They have a handful of truckers using also.

 

[powerboatr]

cold flow, i would imagine is a hold up factor, to thick to atomize properly....
thats an easy fix, HEAT the fuel, hmm m dont we do that now????
i was reading that most engine man. are concerned about oil dilution from unburnt veggie oil getting into the lube oil

i think a few simple mods designed to recirculate fuel in a path around the heated coolant would work wonders,

i used a water to fuel cooler in my boat to stop vapor locks, it could have easiled been plumbed into the hot side of the coolant to keep it warm, I think it cost me about 200 bucks all told and was a foot long. hmmmm
no need to plumb a big heater system in the tank.

on cold starts we may need to boost the elect heat a bit till the engine is warm.

i'll get back in my box now

 

[roosterdiesel]

cold flow, i would imagine is a hold up factor, to thick to atomize properly....
thats an easy fix, HEAT the fuel, hmm m dont we do that now????
i was reading that most engine man. are concerned about oil dilution from unburnt veggie oil getting into the lube oil

i think a few simple mods designed to recirculate fuel in a path around the heated coolant would work wonders,

i used a water to fuel cooler in my boat to stop vapor locks, it could have easiled been plumbed into the hot side of the coolant to keep it warm, I think it cost me about 200 bucks all told and was a foot long. hmmmm
no need to plumb a big heater system in the tank.

on cold starts we may need to boost the elect heat a bit till the engine is warm.

i'll get back in my box now

Cold flow is a big hurdle. Like Crumm said...they use fuel heaters in his neck of the woods. It's also why I'm getting a heated filter.

Last time my vendor headed to Nebraska for soy bean oil it snowed on him. Stayed the night in the truck with it idling on B100, 10" of snow on the ground with no problems. No heater but OTR filters are bigger. He noticed no loss of power out of his 425HP Cat in the AM when he got back on the road.

 

[JOAT]

happeetxn, I have been running B99 for about a month now and I have never found anything in my filters. I removed and replaced them two weeks ago and they looked brand new with no crud on the filters.

Dave

I had the same experience, till several months later when the filter light came on. Pulled it and it was solid black with a bunch of crud in the housing too. Maybe some old deposits take awhile to loosen