YOUR FIRED!!

[F350DRW1]

Hey, red. I have employees, and its not as easy as just telling someone they are fired. Theft, assault, something awful...yes. But it needs to be documented. If you slow down to the point where someone's no longer needed, you get layed off. You need to give people written warnings after verbal warnings. Again, its all supposed to be documented. The days of ham-fisted employee management are long gone. I would file a complaint with your state's Labor Board and let them deal with it. Right after signing up for unemployment, of course. Good luck, and keep your chin up.

 

[JLDickmon]

that is what i needed - a little positive reinforcement.
for the smiles and laughs.

and for clarification, it was 'your done today/terminated'

as for reason(s): when i spoke w/ the majority owner, the reason i told him of what my store manager told me was the reason was news to him and he had no comment. his policy is and i quote "i don't have to give a reason, what is done is done". my answer to him was 'wow' and i wanted to say he was a jackass....so w/ that i left and called the other owner who was at our other store and wanted to go see him face to face and get his take. his response was and i quote "we did not see any leadership/management qualities out of you". my response was again "wow, at 37 yrs. old i have never been terminated and every job i've had i worked from the basement up to management and eventually to owning my own business." he really did not have a come back - no, wait he did. he said i should have asked for more responsibility, all i did was work the counter/answer phone.

Jeez, i was closing the store every damn nite i was there (counting $$, had a key for the front door and a security lock code, performing month end closes the way he wanted me to..... i told him that i had no respect from the other workers because they ALWAYS went to the other guy i had been working w/ who has been there for 19 years. how am i to get respect when i am working w/ a guy who has that seniority... i told him that. i also told him that he as the owner should have told his employees that I was in charge when he or store mgr. was not there.... again, he had no response.

TG: and i did NOT screw the bosses wife..no spank u
WD: you are correct, my perception of them is totally shot. they are not nice people to work for.

this goes back to the end of Oct. when i was told my hours would be cut and not just my hours - everyones. well guess what, i went from over 40/week to 2-3/wk to 1-2/wk. NO ONE elses hours got cut. i did see some writing on the wall but i did NOT expect this, because i did not think they were THAT type of employer. i was used as a sucker. they used me and they know it. i had requested some days off for my bday and was called asking that i work - because the boss was in vegas for the ARA convention and wouldn't you know it the 'store manager took advantage of boss being gone and called me in early 2-4 days, asked me to come in on my 1 day off that week and left early on 2-3 days...what an idiot i was...

man, i am done rambling, i need to get a good nites sleep and put this behind me.

p.s. by the way, should i return his xmas gifts i won at the xmas party? i want too, wife wants to keep the items...

he's right.
Minnesota may be an "at will employment" state, but you still need documented cause for discharge. And getting three different stories from three different members of management does not constitute "just cause"

Especially the "I don't need to give you a reason" one.
Yes, you do.

as far as the Xmas stuff, my motto is, "Why return it, when you can burn it"

go file for unemployment, take a break.
do some ice fishing.

polish up the ol' resume.

get back at it.

you'll be fine.

 

[BamaSixGun]

(p.s. by the way, should i return his xmas gifts i won at the xmas party? i want too, wife wants to keep the items...)

You dadgum right you keep it, and no Bama, none of us need to be sending any hate mail to them.
Just let him talk to the labor board and maybe file a grievance against them.
Had they ever done a performance review, and indicated there was work that you needed to be doing?
Most likely the boss has a nephew or close friend that he wants to give your job to.

Doug, I would never do that, nor did I do that.

 

[no-red 6 0]

wd: i knew what bama meant. he was just being sarcastic...

yes, no preformance reviews were done (to me or any other employee)

as for the gifts, as i stated this started in oct/nov so by xmas i am sure it was eatting him up that he had to give me and my wife gifts...i'd just as soon throw them back in his face. fyi; it was 2 lawn chairs and an ice fishing pole....JL too funny you'd say that.....

 

[Tail_Gunner]

TG: and i did NOT screw the bosses wife..no spank u

You do know that was a generic, hypothetical example and nothing was implied, right?

 

[F350DRW1]

Ah, what the hell. I'll say it. I've worked places where that little faux pau would have gotten you a raise.

 

[BIG JOE]

Don't know about your State Red, but in most States.. You have the right to ask for, and receive, a written statement from your employer stating <specifically> WHY.. your employment was terminated.

"I don't have to give a reason, whats done is done", doesn't work... anymore. (if you don't want it to)

You might contact your Department of Labor and see just what your rights are ?

 

[no-red 6 0]

TERMINATION

Unless there is a contract that says otherwise, employers can hire or fire an employee for a good reason, a bad reason, or no reason at all without any ramifications. There can be ramifications if they terminate an employee for a discriminatory reason involving a particular protected class.

Yupper, i'm pretty much screwed at this point...it wasn't for a lack of trying tho. I never said the owner was dumb, just a jackass..

TG:

 

[bushpilot]

thats the same "statement" just about any where...its the law
in texas and folks still sue (and win).

no jury will EVER side w/ an employer..we (jury members) have
all been **** on one time or another by an employer....to dismiss you
w/ no notice or severance (assume there was no gross misconduct)
is just plain WRONG

 

[no-red 6 0]

to dismiss you
w/ no notice or severance (assume there was no gross misconduct)
is just plain WRONG

, pretty much sums up how i feel. as my wife says, (who by the way is taking this way better than I ever thought she would), just take it as a learning experience and move on....i did call them this morning and 'knowing my rights' demanded my final check w/in 24 hours....