thanks again. the truck sits very close to the same height and stance as stock. the ride is a little stiffer but thats mostly my fault cause i had to much air in the tires. they call for 95psi cold and another guy told me that those tires were for heavier trucks and that on lighter trucks like mine they were running 65-75 psi cold. today we put the 6" grand rock stacks on it from the turbo back 4" down pipe. i'll get a pic up soon.