Steering Slop Revisited

Tail_Gunner

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For the last 9 months or so, I've been working towards getting rid of a significant amount of slop or freeplay in the steering.

I started with the ball joints since they are the "cornerstone" of the steering. Any changes made elsewhere are pointless if they are loose. Mine had over 120,000 on them anyhow. So out with the old ball joints and in with the new ones. While the old ones seemed rather loose after I removed them, any decrease in the slop in my steering was between inconclusive and maybe.

I had already tried adjusting the steering gear. It seemed to help for a while, but slop was still there. So I went with a new steering gear. there was a definate improvement after that. But with the camper behind the truck and a good wind trying to put it all in the ditch, the remaing amount of freeplay became much more noticable.

Next I tried to see how much slop there might be in the ends of the rod that goes from the steering gear arm to the right side of the tie rod. I tried using a dial indicator but couldn't get the magentic base solidly mounted in a position where I could get a reading.

So I broke down and just got the parts for a new assembly. Once I got it in, the improvement was very significant. This is a good thing since I was running out of things to replace!!:eek:

This past weekend we towed the camper south across "Da Bridge" and spent some time with some old friends at a state park.

Now instead of fighting the slop in the steering, I can put the truck where I want it and it stays there without wandering towards the right :rolleyes: or to the left :eek:.
 

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see all that edumacation is paying off for you.:sweet

brand new front end and your set now for another 100k
 

Tail_Gunner

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which rod/end did you change out? i am cornfused
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Look at the control arm that is attached to the steering gear box. Attached to the arm is a thing that looks like a tie-rod end, then an adjuster sleeve and then a long rod that is goes to the far end of the tie rod near the right steering knuckle. One auto parts website refers to the entire assembly of three pieces as the drag link.

Everything between the control arm and the tie rod is what I replaced.
 

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Technically, they are called the upper and lower drag link, with an adjuster in between. The upper draglink is short, and the lower draglink is very long. The lower draglink actually attaches to the knuckle(ie the big part you pressed the balljoints into) The upper drag link attaches to the pitman arm (the part that attaches to the steering gearbox). Not to be snotty, just for clarification, in case any one had to ask for them at the parts counter themselves.
 
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Tail_Gunner

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pitman arm to rt knuckle would be 4, 6 & 8

Actually 5,7,9 looks like what I replaced. The steering stabilizer wasn't attached to it like appears on 6

I was looking for a decent pic, but didn't have much luck.

4,6,8 is the tie rod that goes from side to side. It shows the bracket for the steering stabilizer and the adjuster shown is like that in the tie rod.

8 & 9 are both adjusters, but are different.
 
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Tail_Gunner- you went down the same road I'm traveling down right now. The slop really irritates me. I have a complete Energy Suspension poly kit to put in too so that should help tighten up everything else. Who did you get your box from? I think I'm getting a Red Head. $325 with a core.
 

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