fishbob
SDD Junior Member
CNG on my 6.4
I am ordering a CNG kit for my 6.4 and have heard that it will double my MPG but we will see.
I am ordering a CNG kit for my 6.4 and have heard that it will double my MPG but we will see.
Results of the Spartant DFP tuner and delete kit.....
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dieselmac99
Diesel Christian
the problem is not so much the exhaust and intake, as much as it is the dpf. THE DPF IS THE MAJOR CAUSE OF LOW MILEAGE! The computer is to blame because it controls the DPF. The only way to get the mileage of the 7.3s and 6.0s is to hack the dpf and reprogram the ecm to cope without it. THAT IS WHERE THE MILEAGE GAINS ARE. Hopefully that helps clear it up.
fishbob
SDD Junior Member
fuel economy no good
I thought I was reprogramming the ecm with the tuners that I was putting on that is why I tried so many different ones 4 to be exact SCT with DPF delete, then I stacked it with a edge juice but that didn't seem to help with the economy but tons of power then I went to a black box under the dash that resets the regen every time you start the truck with a Bully Dog Tuner and a cold air AFE intake still no or little gain. After doing all this I was pulling a large hill with camp trailer and 4 wheeler behind, blew a turbo boot and fried my Turbo's not a good week for me. (Warranty? I don't think so all because I am trying to get better fuel mileage.) I would have been better off to leave it stock and put the money into fuel to late now, does enyone have any suggestions?
I thought I was reprogramming the ecm with the tuners that I was putting on that is why I tried so many different ones 4 to be exact SCT with DPF delete, then I stacked it with a edge juice but that didn't seem to help with the economy but tons of power then I went to a black box under the dash that resets the regen every time you start the truck with a Bully Dog Tuner and a cold air AFE intake still no or little gain. After doing all this I was pulling a large hill with camp trailer and 4 wheeler behind, blew a turbo boot and fried my Turbo's not a good week for me. (Warranty? I don't think so all because I am trying to get better fuel mileage.) I would have been better off to leave it stock and put the money into fuel to late now, does enyone have any suggestions?
whipittire
Full Access Member
cng?
Fishbob what is a cng?
Fishbob what is a cng?
stevechie
SDD Junior Member
Fishbob, slow down. I know you are trying everything but it gets so costly. I agree with dieselmacc99. Its your dpf unit on your truck that is giving you poor mileage. You can install a delete pipe but this brings other issues such as the need for a programmer, tunes, and warranty issues. The question is which one do you buy? Read the previous posts and you will find that Spartan makes a good product and it cannot be detected by your dealer once removed. (Was told by Spartan themselves). There are some crazy and innovative ideas that are not helping when making a decision. I am waiting to read more results from those people who have purchased these new products. The results must be supported by actuals not here say.
Good Luck
Good Luck
fishbob
SDD Junior Member
CNG is Compressed Natural Gas which only costs $.85 per gallon in Utah
dieselmac99
Diesel Christian
Fishbob, best of luck on the CNG. Post your results if you do it. I hope I didnt offend you. It was not my intent. Is CNG hard to get where you are?
asmitty82
SDD Junior Member
Sorry if this question seems dumb, I am new to the diesel community and programmers...during this trip, was the DPF delete installed?
Stroked68
This is FORD Country
Makes me feel better that my good ole 7.3 is gettin better mileage than the newer trucks hehe.
DutyCalls08
SDD Junior Member
Hello all,
I've got an '08 F350 SRW Crew cab SB that got about 15 mpg when new and totally stock. Put a leveling kit and 35's on it and mileage dropped to 13. I made the call to Spartan to see what all the hoopla was about. They were very friendly and helpful, so I decided to order right then and there. Got the tuner with pre-loaded tunes (including the nutty prof.), the intake, and exhaust with dpf delete for $2000. Took me one day to install all the parts in my driveway, with the tuner being the easiest of the three. The results? Unbelievable! My mileage went up to 20 highway and 18 city. What about power? More than I could have hoped for. Truck makes well over 500 hp at the wheels (650 at the crank) and more than 1100 torque. If black smoke is your thing, just turn the tuner to the highest setting and it will bellow out ungodly amounts at WOT. If not, then just keep a more conservative 210 hp setting and it drives just like stock until you mash the gas. The truck will spin 35 inch tires in four wheel drive. It's got that much power to spare. Keep in mind that my truck is heavier than when I bought it new. I've added front and rear Fab Fours bumpers, a Warn 16.5 winch, and a solid Diamondback HD tonneau cover. Plus the larger tires. All that extra weight means worse fuel economy, but with the Spartan kit, I'm still getting around 20. That leads me to believe a standard or extended cab short bed with stock tires might get 25 mpg's with the Spartan tuner. Can you imagine?
Now what about issues? Ok. Will the tuner negate my factory warranty? Well, yes and no. If you have to take the truck in for service, you will need to return everything back to stock and re-install the factory DPF. How about breakage or other problems. I've had no breakages so far, and I do not baby my truck. So hard not to stomp on the fast pedal all the time. It's too much fun. I will say that on my truck, it is necessary to power break the transmission before a launch to lock up the TC. If I don't do that, it will sometimes be very jerky in the power delivery. Once it did come up with an error code that basically said the transmission was not shifting properly. No harm, no foul on the vehicle. It was my fault really. It just went into limp mode, so I pulled over and used the tuner to reset the trouble code right then and there. Took all of about 30 seconds. Problem solved and it hasn't done it since. That is the price you must be willing to pay for big power. Are you?
I've got an '08 F350 SRW Crew cab SB that got about 15 mpg when new and totally stock. Put a leveling kit and 35's on it and mileage dropped to 13. I made the call to Spartan to see what all the hoopla was about. They were very friendly and helpful, so I decided to order right then and there. Got the tuner with pre-loaded tunes (including the nutty prof.), the intake, and exhaust with dpf delete for $2000. Took me one day to install all the parts in my driveway, with the tuner being the easiest of the three. The results? Unbelievable! My mileage went up to 20 highway and 18 city. What about power? More than I could have hoped for. Truck makes well over 500 hp at the wheels (650 at the crank) and more than 1100 torque. If black smoke is your thing, just turn the tuner to the highest setting and it will bellow out ungodly amounts at WOT. If not, then just keep a more conservative 210 hp setting and it drives just like stock until you mash the gas. The truck will spin 35 inch tires in four wheel drive. It's got that much power to spare. Keep in mind that my truck is heavier than when I bought it new. I've added front and rear Fab Fours bumpers, a Warn 16.5 winch, and a solid Diamondback HD tonneau cover. Plus the larger tires. All that extra weight means worse fuel economy, but with the Spartan kit, I'm still getting around 20. That leads me to believe a standard or extended cab short bed with stock tires might get 25 mpg's with the Spartan tuner. Can you imagine?
Now what about issues? Ok. Will the tuner negate my factory warranty? Well, yes and no. If you have to take the truck in for service, you will need to return everything back to stock and re-install the factory DPF. How about breakage or other problems. I've had no breakages so far, and I do not baby my truck. So hard not to stomp on the fast pedal all the time. It's too much fun. I will say that on my truck, it is necessary to power break the transmission before a launch to lock up the TC. If I don't do that, it will sometimes be very jerky in the power delivery. Once it did come up with an error code that basically said the transmission was not shifting properly. No harm, no foul on the vehicle. It was my fault really. It just went into limp mode, so I pulled over and used the tuner to reset the trouble code right then and there. Took all of about 30 seconds. Problem solved and it hasn't done it since. That is the price you must be willing to pay for big power. Are you?
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