New push for better mileage, cars and trucks

rammertide07

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I see a lot of trial and errors ahead for the auto industry. Either that or when they make a diesel pick-up thats gets 45mpg and the oil company is going to freek out. Then you won't hear anything about it for another 5yrs.
 

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As the Knee Jerk EPA emmision and MPG requirements increase.. So will the price of fuel.

$6.00+ per gallon.. In the Not To Distant Future ?
 

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As the Knee Jerk EPA emmision and MPG requirements increase.. So will the price of fuel.

$6.00+ per gallon.. In the Not To Distant Future ?

Yep, we've done seen that happen....when they switched to ULSD. Diesel use to be cheaper than gasoline.
 

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Exactly right Big Joe! The Automakers keep making more fuel efficient cars and trucks, and the oil companies keep raising prices on us!:rant All this means is WE will be paying more!
 

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emission requirements are easy..
mileage requirements are easy..
making them both at the same time is what's hard..

I think they're going to find out that this is not as easy as it seems, and the American consumer (remember us? the people that don't want to buy fuel sucking SUV's?) aren't going to settle for golf-cart sized commuter cars..

I don't know where it originated, but as they saying goes, "Will it play in Poughkeepsie?"
 
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I don't know where it originated, but as they saying goes, "Will it play in Poughkeepsie?"

...or Sacramento more likely, since California is the state that always "leads" us in issues about the environment.

It's comical, I'm in Sacramento looking at electric generation off anaerobic digesters (methane from manure) on central valley dairies, and it's a regulatory circus. Air commission, water commission, state epa, federal epa, usda nrcs, etc... The air commission mandates that if you throw a rod on a big generator engine, then the replacement engine (or just block) has to meet the latest emission control practice...and they just used that engine's performance to update their own requirements!

Meanwhile, we're all burning more fuel to reduce emissions from newer engines...but when you multiply MORE gallons burnt by the LESS emissions concentrations .... you get.... just as much, or more, total environmental load. At higher cost, which is the point to reduce demand, I guess. (Naw they're not that clever, are they?)
 

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