This is FRAUD, plain and simple. Didn't your folks teach you that? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
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This is FRAUD, plain and simple. Didn't your folks teach you that? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?
HeavyAssault
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The gaskets are not the weak link since the head bolts are torque to yeild. As cylinder pressures are increased by using tuners or injecting water/meth the bolts will stretch causing "head gaskets" to fail.
As long as your heads and gaskets are virgin there is no reason that you cannot remove one bolt at a time using the ARP studs. Before you start this task I'd ask that you ask questions of those who have done their own studs. The ARPs require a specific torque sequence and make sure you follow the OEM pattern.
There are a few who have done this cab on the truck by removing the motor mounts and tilting the motor. IIRC the guy who posted this up was 67 and did it in his driveway.
Using o-rings or fire rings on the heads has it's ups and downs since you need to check the heads for flatness and mill them down flat if needed. If there is enough material left to cut the ring into the heads this may prevent future issues. If there is not enough material left you end up needing new heads so it can get expensive. Rely on an experienced machine shop that has done fire rings don't expect just anyone to be up to the task.
As long as your heads and gaskets are virgin there is no reason that you cannot remove one bolt at a time using the ARP studs. Before you start this task I'd ask that you ask questions of those who have done their own studs. The ARPs require a specific torque sequence and make sure you follow the OEM pattern.
There are a few who have done this cab on the truck by removing the motor mounts and tilting the motor. IIRC the guy who posted this up was 67 and did it in his driveway.
Using o-rings or fire rings on the heads has it's ups and downs since you need to check the heads for flatness and mill them down flat if needed. If there is enough material left to cut the ring into the heads this may prevent future issues. If there is not enough material left you end up needing new heads so it can get expensive. Rely on an experienced machine shop that has done fire rings don't expect just anyone to be up to the task.
Scooter
Full Access Member
You mean I can't just do it with my dremel and a grinder???
HeavyAssault
Full Access Member
I'd suggest you check your pockets first then decide if a dremel is the right tool to use.
ckamp52
ckamp52
i did mine with the 7-n-1 tool i got off the late night infomercial
No, I would crack the OEM bolts, let the headgasket fail, then re-torque, and drop it off at the dealership which when they replace the headgaskets I will have them put in ARP studs
ponyexpress94
Diesel Power Junkie
Fordoor is right this is fraud and I doubt very much that anyone that spends anytime on this forum is going to be supportive to this practice of trying to commit fraud. If you want to try to intentionally break your truck do so at your own risk, expense and humility, but there won't be much support here.
BamaSixGun
SDD Super Mod/Staff
OK, I had to read this again because I didn't catch this the first time and I must say that this is just wrong.
Practices like what you are wanting to do affects all of us. It causes labor prices to go up, parts costs to go up, etc.
This would be a clear cut case of fraud, plain & simple.
I have no respect for someone that does this type of stuff.
4x4grey88
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Gearhead2012
SDD Junior Member
ahh...this is where the karma gods come into play...and perhaps there would be no warranty, just a blown head gasket for fraud boy to fix himself. Or, maybe he tries this plan, but...perhaps he waits and waits for this head gasket to blow...but it decides to go at 100,001 miles. Good luck there dude.
