mantis8585
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Anyone install one of these? Results?
Thanks,
Mike
Thanks,
Mike
Hydrogen generator?
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Frankenstien
Frankestien
I have heard/read that done rite, you could yield about 20% improvement on fuel economy. so if your at 18 mpg now... that would get you over the 20 mpg hump. Ive done a lot of reading on Brown Gas, and have plans in the near future to make my own hydrogen generator. ... With hopes of getting better than 20%.... now with that said... I have to see up close and personal any on running/suplimenting with one of these.
Zookie400
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i just got a 4' x 6' sheet of 1/16" stainless.... soon the project begins. i still need to find plans for making a 555 circuit pulse modulator, and see if that works for higher yield. i am definatly going to use ammonia in mine....it makes MUCH more hydrogen out of the same amperage.
this project went on hold though, because i got the ultimate fuel saver...the bike! its on the road and running so i will be getting back to the hydrogen generator for the truck.
i just got a 4' x 6' sheet of 1/16" stainless.... soon the project begins. i still need to find plans for making a 555 circuit pulse modulator, and see if that works for higher yield. i am definatly going to use ammonia in mine....it makes MUCH more hydrogen out of the same amperage.
this project went on hold though, because i got the ultimate fuel saver...the bike! its on the road and running so i will be getting back to the hydrogen generator for the truck.
Frankenstien
Frankestien
Instead of stainless ... why not tungsten? A resource.. your local copier repair dealer. the Corona Wires are made of tungsten, Sharp Part # dwir-0466fczz this is an 80 micron wire. comes in spools about 100yd in length. My thoughts were to use ceramic rods, in individual cells, have the wire suspended above the ceramic, and coil around. then utilize an electric fence pulse generator to produce the high voltage ..low amperage charge. Just my own thought... nothing proven or tried .. yet.
Zookie400
I WANNA GO FAST
high voltage is BAD! an electric fence charge could arc across the water vapors and ignite the hydrogen inside your generator. i dont recomend going above 12 volts. from my hours of research, i have found a few different sources that say anything above 5 volts is a waste and causes it to become less efficient with the amperage going through it. also, an electric fence pulse is going to be way too slow. a trailer brake controller would be much better. you need the amperage more than the voltage, as your hydroxy yield is directly related to amperage draw.
tungsten may be good enough to use. any conductor works, how resistant to oxidation is the important part. i havent heard of anyone using it, and i dont have access to it (for free) so i cant voice an opinion on it. aluminum is ok for testing, but after an hour of run time one piece of step flashing will almost disappear
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tungsten may be good enough to use. any conductor works, how resistant to oxidation is the important part. i havent heard of anyone using it, and i dont have access to it (for free) so i cant voice an opinion on it. aluminum is ok for testing, but after an hour of run time one piece of step flashing will almost disappear
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Jefe
Frankenstien
Frankestien
I like it...
FordGuy100
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I'm going to be experimenting with a hydrogen unit in my truck in all my experiementing to see what yeilds better fuel economy (I have a thread over on OB's about it). Anyways I was bored today, so I went out and made a little test unit. I basically took a bolt, wraped it in teflon tape. Then I took one washer, and put a positive led to it, spaced the next washer with a rubber o ring of some sort. I then attached a negative led to the other washer. I tighetened everything down, and then attached the 10awg wire to my passenger side battery, while I submersed the unit in water with some baking soda in it. For the time I spent on it, I was kinda amazed at how well it worked. Not as good as some on youtube, but better than some (some of the crappier ones anyways ). I'm going to build a better setup in the next upcoming weeks, and put it to work. I think since our motors are large in displacement, we need something like 2 liters per minute (compared to a liter per minute for a little 4 banger).
). I'm going to build a better setup in the next upcoming weeks, and put it to work. I think since our motors are large in displacement, we need something like 2 liters per minute (compared to a liter per minute for a little 4 banger).
Zookie400
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the goal is to make the most H & O with the least amount of amps. if you pull too many amps and end up replacing a burnt alternator, it will cost you more than you have saved in fuel.
try using ammonia. it works much much better than water because there is 3 hydrogen atoms. you want to get some commercial grade stuff so the concentration of ammonia is higher (household stuff is like 5%, commercial is around 30%). using ammonia will get you more hydrogen with less amperage input.
2 LPM would be good, i had done the math and for a 7.3liter engine with no boost, 5LPM would be equal to 3% throttle application. 2 should be around 1.25%......doesnt sound like much but over time it should net you some savings (especially at $5 per gallon!)
make a generator and post up some pics, video, and give us some real world readings off of it (amperage/lpm) i had to put mine on hold because i bought a bike to save on fuel (wich is working....48mpg of gas) but after this coming race i will be getting to work on the generator again.
try using ammonia. it works much much better than water because there is 3 hydrogen atoms. you want to get some commercial grade stuff so the concentration of ammonia is higher (household stuff is like 5%, commercial is around 30%). using ammonia will get you more hydrogen with less amperage input.
2 LPM would be good, i had done the math and for a 7.3liter engine with no boost, 5LPM would be equal to 3% throttle application. 2 should be around 1.25%......doesnt sound like much but over time it should net you some savings (especially at $5 per gallon!)
make a generator and post up some pics, video, and give us some real world readings off of it (amperage/lpm) i had to put mine on hold because i bought a bike to save on fuel (wich is working....48mpg of gas) but after this coming race i will be getting to work on the generator again.
FordGuy100
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Yeah I figured I would mess around with Ammonia, NH3. I was just thinking though, maybe Ammonium would be better, its NH4. The bond type might be different, might have a stronger bond = more amps to break it apart making it not a good substance to use.
I should post up a vid of my current experimental unit, so you guys could laugh and tell me I'm crazy
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