HUMAN CAUSED GLOBAL WARMING, THINK IT'S A FACT??

[Maxtor]

We have Good years, and Bad years.

A good Winter, a bad Winter. Wet Spring, Dry Spring. Hot Summer, Cool Summer. As compared to what ? The 50 or 75 years we've kept records ?

We have X number of Hurricanes one year. Then we have Y number the next. As compared to What ? A few years of record keeping. If we had only 2 Hurricanes one year, that hit land.. That would be The Worst Hurricane Season on record.. Based on Damage done. IMO the Worlds weather, and it's effect on Mankind, is all about the Dollar.

Bad seasons= Bad Crop years= World Disaster.

The Hole in the Ozone. Was it ALLWAYS there ? A part of the issue, no one likes to talk about.

I happened to be in Antarctica when the NSF discovered it, in the 70's. The buzz was: No one had ever looked at the Southern part of the atmosphere before, because of it's remoteness. No records or data. Had it ALLWAYS been there.. ? No one knew. But from that day forward.. We have HOLE in the Ozone layer. (Chicken Little media slant: The Sky has a HOLE in it , thing)

Still... A Questionable Scientific find, in my mind.

(We all just figured.. it was where the Planet took a Dump from.)

We're simply in a Global Weather Cycle, and probably will be for a few more years. There's Geological proof that this kind of thing has happened before. But 10s of thousands of years of Geological proof doesn't sell Air Time. 50 0r 75 years of record keeping does.

I ain't worried. Hope you all aren't either.

Another wise old man, telling it, like it is.

 

[F350DRW1]

Well, how about if the "wise old men" google: "Jonathan Shanklin" do some actual research, and get back to us.

 

[Crumm]

HUMAN CAUSED GLOBAL WARMING, THINK IT'S A FACT??

Current temp here in Fairbanks is

Need I say more?

 

[bushpilot]

im neither wise nor old...but i can google

Jonathan Shanklin - Google Search

 

[Tbar]

Hummmm............try to sell that idea to the Chinese.

BEIJING (Reuters) - Millions of Chinese shivered through power cuts and water shortages on Wednesday and millions more were stranded by snow that has blanketed parts of central and southern China.

The winter havoc was expected to last at least three more days, Xinhua news agency said, quoting forecasters.

About 50 people have died, including 25 on Tuesday in a bus crash on a snowy mountain road, and Premier Wen Jiabao has apologized to stranded passengers ahead of the biggest holiday of the year, the Spring Festival, which starts on February 7.

Unusually icy temperatures, snow and sleet blanketing much of central, eastern and southern China have crippled thousands of trucks and trains loaded with coal, food and passengers in the most severe winter weather for some parts in half a century......................

Millions suffer power, water cuts in China snow - Yahoo! News


Tbar

 

[F350DRW1]

But Tbar, we don't SELL anything to the Chinese...its the other way around.

 

[BIG JOE]

im neither wise nor old...but i can google

Jonathan Shanklin - Google Search

Good read BP. Thanks.

Although in the Military, strictly in a support role of the Scientific efforts in Antarctica, we had the great Opportunity, and the Privilege, if we elected to, to work close enough to, and with.. the various Project Leaders (Scientist) during our time there. Many of us feel we gleaned a very good perspective, understanding and respect.. of their scope of work. Some of us spent A lot of my our time, working with them.. as a Volunteers.. in all the ares of Science that interested us.

Those gifted experiences left me with More than a Passing Interest, as it relates to the investigation and science of things. But in this case; Atmospheric Science(s). I was minimally privy to the "Hole in the Ozone" event, but remember it well. and all the "Buzz" about it.

Having said all that.. and I think I need to be careful here: As I remember it, the >First< discovery of the Ozone anomaly, was made by a young American Graduate student working from a Grant that dealt with Earth Sciences and Climate Change. Whether or not his Data was academically accepted is unknown to me, but it started the Ozone issues of today.

Part of the Antarctic Treaty talks about the Sharing of Scientific Findings and the Mutual respect and understanding of each of the Participating Countries Claims of Discovery.

That Begged the questions... Can a Graduate Student claim credit to a Scientific Discovery ? Or should it be a more Accredited individual ? And/Or, can it be Shared by two (or more) participating, Treaty Countries. (The Buzz)

We all know how that Works, and the answers. I think.

I wanted to clarify the Ozone thing. I wasn't make'n it up as I pecked along..

 

[bushpilot]

what i find interestesting is theres SEVERAL papers on mr. shanklin's
web pages that say the whole is SHRINKING...he apparently NOW
thinks its not shrinking fast enough !

 

[BIG JOE]

what i find interestesting is theres SEVERAL papers on mr. shanklin's
web pages that say the whole is SHRINKING...he apparently NOW
thinks its not shrinking fast enough !

Wait a month or three BP.. It'll be Exspanding again.

I'd bet we can find Ozone data, from several sources, that counter each other.

Whada we do

Whoda we call

Whereda we go

 

[bushpilot]

i dont know 'bout the rest of yall but im goin' to have a cigar and
a glass o wine...ill try not to fart like the cows do.