funeral flag etiquette ? for military guys

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I recently received my grandfather's funeral flag from 1958. It only has 48 stars and I was thinking it would be cool to have it displayed somehow and had considered unfolding it to place in some sort of frame or other display with his picture next to it. He was a Lt. Colonel in WWII and commanding officer of a hospital base in the S. Pacific. How big is this flag and would it be wrong to unfold it?

Thanks! I dont want to commit a faux pas!
 

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The triangle case is a good option and i have found one locally but I was wondering about unfolding it so you could see it only has 48 stars. I think that is one of the cool things about it. Any thoughts on that in particular?

(the etiquette site didnt say anything other than "display as appropriate" but what is "appropriate"?)
 
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Being that its for you Grandfather and the signification that the flag stands for, it would be unruley to have it opened... Please just put it in a shadow box of some sort.. They make big boxs that you can put medals and rank and pic in along with the flag..

Just remember, the military doesnt hand it to the family members unwrapped, so keep it folded to show respect..


http://usflag.org/foldflag.html

Flag Folding
As an Army and Navy custom, the flag is lowered daily at the last note of retreat. Special care should be taken that no part of the flag touches the ground. The Flag is then carefully folded into the shape of a tri-cornered hat, emblematic of the hats worn by colonial soldiers during the war for Independence. In the folding, the red and white stripes are finally wrapped into the blue, as the light of day vanishes into the darkness of night.

The first fold of our flag is a symbol of life.

The second fold is a symbol of our belief in the eternal life.

The third fold is made in honor and remembrance of the veteran departing our ranks who gave a portion of life for the defense of our country to attain a peace throughout the world.

The fourth fold represents our weaker nature, for as American citizens trusting in God, it is to Him we turn in times of peace as well as in times of war for His divine guidance.

The fifth fold is a tribute to our country, for in the words of Stephen Decatur, "Our country, in dealing with other countries, may she always be right; but it is still our country, right or wrong."

The sixth fold is for where our hearts lie. It is with our heart that we pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

The seventh fold is a tribute to our Armed Forces, for it is through the Armed Forces that we protect our country and our flag against all her enemies, whether they be found within or without the boundaries of our republic.

The eighth fold is a tribute to the one who entered in to the valley of the shadow of death, that we might see the light of day, and to honor mother, for whom it flies on mother's day.

The ninth fold is a tribute to womanhood; for it has been through their faith, love, loyalty and devotion that the character of the men and women who have made this country great have been molded.

The tenth fold is a tribute to father, for he, too, has given his sons and daughters for the defense of our country since they were first born.

The eleventh fold, in the eyes of a Hebrew citizen, represents the lower portion of the seal of King David and King Solomon, and glorifies, in their eyes, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

The twelfth fold, in the eyes of a Christian citizen, represents an emblem of eternity and glorifies, in their eyes, God the Father, the Son, and Holy Ghost.

When the flag is completely folded, the stars are uppermost, reminding us of our national motto, "In God we Trust."

After the flag is completely folded and tucked in, it takes on the appearance of a cocked hat, ever reminding us of the soldiers who served under General George Washington and the sailors and marines who served under Captain John Paul Jones who were followed by their comrades and shipmates in the Armed Forces of the United States, preserving for us the rights, privileges, and freedoms we enjoy today.
 
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guess the triangle box is the way I'll go. I had forgotten about the fold explanations. I may print that to go with it.

THanks!
 

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Its good to be reminded of what is behind doing colors in the morning and the evening and what all of the folds mean. Mostly we get caught up in arguing over who is going to do it rather than what it stands for. Sometimes the five minute warning means to some that you have five minutes to get inside before you have to stand an salute in the hot sun while the national anthem plays. (its really bad when there are a bunch of ships from other countries because they play theirs too) Maybe I'll print this one out for the guys at work and remind them what its all about.
 

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I have my Dad's flag and it is displayed in a triangle case as well. This flag got unfolded and I will tell you another practical reason for not unfolding it. It took me about 4 hours of folding and refolding to get the stars to line up properly for display. I wouldn't even think about unfolding it even if it were OK to do.
BTW, I am fairly sure it was the Navy that opened the flag and draped his coffin with it for the funeral. Not sure who originally refolded it but it was not done correctly when I got it.
Jim
 

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Peter, if it was from my Grandfather's funeral I would also display his medals/ribbon next to it. JMHO Keith
 

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Tx_Atty said:
guess the triangle box is the way I'll go. I had forgotten about the fold explanations. I may print that to go with it.

THanks!


I've heard a couple different versions of that explanation behind the "significance" of each fold so personally I don't place much stock in that one particular version. If you do decide to display it unfurled, make sure that it's displayed in accordance with the regulations of the U.S. Flag Code, i.e. have the field upright and to the left as you're looking at it. Most of the time at funerals I did for active duty and veterans, the stars didn't end up nicely centered so unless there's a different folding method for 48-star flags (I never worked with one of them), you'll have to improvise/half-ass some method to make it look right while on display.
 

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