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[RSG]

I'll pile on CA some more:

Their Air Pollution Districts (San Joaquin Valley, for example) have been running dairy and other livestock operations out of state. Their stoopid Prop 2 a few years back was passed with wording that effectively banned laying hens in cages, sows in gestation crates, and will probably cause more poor people to not get good wholesome CA-grown animal agriculture products.

That Air District activity actually is driving up the anaerobic digester (biogas) market, which is cool if you think dairies should produce electricity and lose money on their milk operation (and you pay $0.2+/kW-hr). Then they "reset" the performance standards as gensets fail and they come out and measure emissions on the new equipment and reset thresholds. Diesel powered irrigation pumps? Tied to climate change. But we can't tie a burro to the old well head cuz that's animal cruelty.

Now they are using random stops to fill in their database on vehicle emissions performance? To me...it's out of control. Sure, air pollution sucks and frankly I think that vehicle emissions are a part (big part) of the issue. But as powrbtr wrote, they sure "push the envelope"!!!

Don't get me wrong. I know California is full of great people; one of my brothers lives there. But what a screwed up society they have evolved. And they set the tone for the rest of us unfortunately.

 

[Dogman]

Something I just thought of is what happen to people that live out of state don't have all the BS smog crap on there cars and trucks. There basely illegal and not aloud to travail in CA in there car or truck because of a law.

Me being in Florida we are not required to keep up the smog crap so most pull it off. But saying that are old smog laws (when we did test) were not as as bad as CA and are cars would fail there test anyway.

 

[DaveBen]

Our smog laws apply to state residents and not visitors. If your car or truck is registered in another state you are OK.

Dave

 

[powerboatr]

Something I just thought of is what happen to people that live out of state don't have all the BS smog crap on there cars and trucks. There basely illegal and not aloud to travail in CA in there car or truck because of a law.

Me being in Florida we are not required to keep up the smog crap so most pull it off. But saying that are old smog laws (when we did test) were not as as bad as CA and are cars would fail there test anyway.

i remember back in the mid 90's in jacksonville we had to have the "emission" test at those huge government run centers
i found it odd i would roll up to the tester and he would take my 10 spot and say have a nice day, no opacity check or anything.....but you had to go through to get your tag re-newed, then i moved to Pensacola and the smog test stuff was not required

her in Texas the obd and smog test are based on where you live....
dallas, austin, houston, san antonio all require the tests because of smog ...
but out here in the clean piney woods air its not required
this is for both gasoline and diesel fired engines

 

[Dogman]

i remember back in the mid 90's in jacksonville we had to have the "emission" test at those huge government run centers
i found it odd i would roll up to the tester and he would take my 10 spot and say have a nice day, no opacity check or anything.....but you had to go through to get your tag re-newed, then i moved to Pensacola and the smog test stuff was not required

her in Texas the obd and smog test are based on where you live....
dallas, austin, houston, san antonio all require the tests because of smog ...
but out here in the clean piney woods air its not required
this is for both gasoline and diesel fired engines

There talking about it again here. Problem is there are so many car and trucks that could not pass the test that there at a lost in how to do it without the state turning into one big junkyard.

 

[powerboatr]

There talking about it again here. Problem is there are so many car and trucks that could not pass the test that there at a lost in how to do it without the state turning into one big junkyard.

if irc there was a clause if your car failed and your were poor, then the test didnt matter....

or if you failed three times and the cost was to repair was over a certain amount then it got passed for a year

we had a 95 honda civic (junk) that couldn't pass, even after a new head and everything in spec....finally a guy at honda got it to pass by rolling the timing way forward and leaning the fuel out so bad she would run past 30 mph
once passed the timing was brought back to spec and the fuel riched up and she ran great
then it was stolen thank goodness

 

[Dogman]

I had a 85 ford ranger that I put a 372 HP 302 in it. It was build just to deal with the inspections. It pass with no cat or smog crap on it. The truck could run on alcohol so before the test. I tuned the truck to the alcohol and drove it to the inspection center 3 blocks away from the shop and drove it back. They failed it because it was a altered truck and did not have the 4 bagger in it. So I showed up the next day with my 86 pony car with a 429 with almost a 954 HP and it passed too, Of course was altered like the truck. But they gave me a tag for it. I battled the state for 5 years on this but they would not move.

It is stupit the was states work on this stuf. No one knows what the other hand is doing.

 

[WD40]

Glad I don't live in CA. You boys out there have fun. I am sure it will be here soon.
Doug
Here is more info

Where are roadside surveys performed?
The surveys are performed in the areas of the state with the poorest air quality, including the Central Valley, the San Francisco Bay area, the greater Los Angeles area, Inland Empire, and San Diego area. BAR randomly selects ZIP codes, then identifies suitable sites where it can safely conduct the surveys.
Who performs the roadside surveys?
Roadside surveys are performed by BAR staff. Each team generally consists of three or four individuals, all of whom are ASE certified automotive technicians.
How are the roadside surveys performed?
Vehicles selected for testing are stopped by an officer of the California Highway Patrol. The consumer is greeted by a BAR representative who provides them with information about the survey’s purpose and answers any questions they may have. The test usually takes less than 10 minutes.
The surveys themselves are performed in a manner similar to a Smog Check inspection. Each vehicle is subject to a visual inspection in which required emissions control components and systems are identified to confirm that they are connected and functional. Next, the technician performs a functional inspection, which may include checking the malfunction indicator light, the ignition timing, the gas cap, and the Exhaust Recirculation (EGR) system, among others. Finally, the technician performs a tailpipe test, which measures exhaust emissions using a probe inserted into the vehicle’s tailpipe. This part of the inspection measures hydrocarbons (HC), carbon monoxide (CO), and oxides of nitrogen (NOx).