EBPV stealing all power

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Our Excursion has developed a power problem as in it doesn't have any. While driving down the road you have to keep pushing harder and harder on the throttle to maintain speed. I believe the EBPV is closing when it should not be(I can hear the whoosh). It is currently -20 out but once the engine is up to temp the EBPV should not cycle anymore. I use to know what to look at but now my brain has gone blank. Would this be a plugged back-pressure sensor tube? I am going to unplug the EBPV to make sure that it is the problem but due to our cold temps I need it to function properly. In the Alaska interior "gutting" is not an option. Just what is wrong when the EBPV develops a mind of its own?

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I think the valve is controlled by an outside temp. sensor located in the air intake and possibly the engine temp or oil temp. If it opens when you unplug it, plug is under and in front of the turbo base, you could install a temporary switch in one of the wires feeding the valve control.
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Jim is right. The ambient air temp sensor and oil temp help dictate when the EBPV operates. A faulty EBP sensor and clogged tube are usually the culprit when the valve goes crazy I believe. But it also would make sense if the air and oil temp sensors went bad problems could arise. Good luck with the troubleshooting!
 

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I unplugged it and sure enough my power came back. I of course got a SES light since the EBPV is unplugged but at least I know what the problem is. Rather than cleaning the tube and changing the expensive sensor I just ordered a SP Diesel dongle to eliminate the sensor and the SES light. I am going to wire the EBPV up to a switch so that I am in control of it for faster warm-ups and for an exhaust brake rather than it cycling when it is in the mood. They are great for a quick warm up when idling but I hate the frigging thing when driving. They should not cycle when the vehicle is in motion if you ask me and with a switch mine wont..
 

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I hope so. The overhead is reading under 12mpg and it is usually very optimistic compared to real mileage. At $2.65 a gallon I need much better mileage. Giving some serious though about selling the Ex and getting a 500..
 

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FWIW, my EBPV stays on for 20 minutes, no matter how warm the engine gets, every time I start it up and it is cold out. It operates properly, mind you, where it shuts off when I hit the throttle, etc, so it does not bother fuel economy. However, because it does stay on so long after complete warm up, I have researched some ways to temporarily disable it from the cab.

As many of you have already read, i set up a system with recitifer diodes on the supply wire fromt eh PCM, so I can manually turn the EBPV on with a switch, so I can use it as an engine retarder. Furthermore, the diodes allowed me to keep it attached to the PCM, so it still functions normally. What I am thinking is this, the grey wire that I tapped is the power wire fromt eh PCM. That means that the black wire must be the ground. Therefore, I intend to interupt this black wire with a switch in the cab, which will, when open, shut off the EBPV and prevent it from operating and annoying me. I am worried that this will set a code. So, the other option is to interupt the gray wire with another switch and a resistor that matches closely the resistance of the EBPV, which would trick the PCM into thinking that the EBPV is still there, and still functioning, when it is really not... I am trying to picture this in my mind, maybe I should draw a schematic. Anyway, point being, will interupting the ground work, or will it set a code? And if so, does anybody know the resistance in ohms that the EBPV creates, so i can get the right resistor and hook this thing up to see if it works?
 

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Hoss 350 said:
FWIW, my EBPV stays on for 20 minutes, no matter how warm the engine gets, every time I start it up and it is cold out. It operates properly, mind you, where it shuts off when I hit the throttle, etc, so it does not bother fuel economy.
Well maybe mine is operating normally. I have not noticed it operating this much in years past though. We never drive for more than 20 minutes but it sure did seem like it was holding us back. Full throttle it opens up but at half throttle the ebpv was shutting. and yes -20 but that ain't nothing it will be -50 before the first of the year..
 

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Crumm said:
I hope so. The overhead is reading under 12mpg and it is usually very optimistic compared to real mileage. At $2.65 a gallon I need much better mileage. Giving some serious though about selling the Ex and getting a 500..
Sure wish we could get fuel for that price here in Michigan.
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