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did anyone tape this show? Discovery doesnt show any future air dates. I'd pay postage to borrow the tape and send it back. or send you a dvd to copy it...
 

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powerboatr said:
and then ask yourself
why is there a 100% tariff on brazilian ethanol and zero tariff on mid east oil????
sit down
its because making ethanol from corn is harder than making it with beets and costs more...

Almost correct Robert. Sugar beets are way sweeter than corn and produce more sugars per pound...thus more ethanol yield. At this time they are trying to figure out how to use the cobs. They should subsidize the American farmers AND lessen the tariff so they are priced the same in America. I believe that if they put a tariff on foreign oil there would be riots in the streets...:eek:
 

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hheynow said:
Almost correct Robert. Sugar beets are way sweeter than corn and produce more sugars per pound...thus more ethanol yield. At this time they are trying to figure out how to use the cobs. They should subsidize the American farmers AND lessen the tariff so they are priced the same in America. I believe that if they put a tariff on foreign oil there would be riots in the streets...:eek:


that word subsidize sort of gets me,
maybe do it for a finite time period of say 5 years, by then the technology and our farmers should be caught up enough to be on equal footing , providing the brazilain gov doesnt further subsidize to keep prices un-fairly low,


tariff foriegn oil and open up more of our fields . or here is a thought,
produce more soybeans for bio????
if you put a five year plan into effect, incrimentally increase tariffs on ALL imported crude or finished petroleum products and kicked in to get the bio over the hump, we could be very close to a good balance of say 10% of our oil imported.

it would be a hard sell, even ted doesnt want a wind farm off martha vineyard, it might spoil his view :dunno
 

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powerboatr said:
dont tempt me,
i am to honest,
That's the problem now, not enough honest people in Congress. Even Joe Lieberman is in trouble in CT, his home state, because he's stood up with Bush for the war. Lieberman is one of those who doesn't always toe the party line, he speaks his mind. Sorry for going off topic.
 

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powerboatr said:
dont tempt me,
i am to honest, big oil and the kennedys would have me murderd by accident my first week :D

Along these lines...... I have a Shirt-Tail relation who's a BIG TIME Corn Grower/Rancher in Nebraska. He and several other Growers formed a Co-op, built an Ethanol plant and went to growing nuthin but Corn for the plant.

Soon as they got up'n going...... He (they) had Tractors torched & pumps sabotaged (sic)..... Had to "Barn" all equipment and convert to portable pumps and "BARN" them too...

Who do you think would do such a thing.... ??.... And Why ??

:dunno
 

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BIG JOE said:
Along these lines...... I have a Shirt-Tail relation who's a BIG TIME Corn Grower/Rancher in Nebraska. He and several other Growers formed a Co-op, built an Ethanol plant and went to growing nuthin but Corn for the plant.

Soon as they got up'n going...... He (they) had Tractors torched & pumps sabotaged (sic)..... Had to "Barn" all equipment and convert to portable pumps and "BARN" them too...

Who do you think would do such a thing.... ??.... And Why ??

:dunno

i would have to say ........big oil ?
you would think they would embrace new energy techologies so they could monopolize it as well....
darn shame that would happen

oh and lieberaman is probably one of a very few democrats worth his salt,

it should be once your up there
there are no party lines, YOU are an employee of teh federal government.....PERIOD. do whats right for the country and your people, not your wallet , see what you have gone and done, i step off the soapbox
:sorry
 

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