B-2 Bomber Crashed

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i didn;t think that this was possible, but a B-2 crashed in guam. pilots ejected. a 1.5B oops?

HAGATNA, Guam - A B-2 stealth bomber plunged to the ground shortly after taking off from an air base in Guam on Saturday, the first time one crashed, but both pilots ejected safely, Air Force officials said.

The aircraft was taking off with three others on their last flight out of Guam after a four-month deployment, part of a continuous U.S. bomber presence in the western Pacific. After the crash, the other three bombers were being kept on Guam, said Maj. Eric Hilliard at Hickham Air Force Base in Hawaii.

At least one B-2 bomber had taken off safely from Andersen Air Force Base but was brought back when another aircraft plunged to the ground.

There were no injuries on the ground or damage to buildings, and no munitions were on board. Each B-2 bomber costs about $1.2 billion to build.

Thick, black smoke could be seen billowing from the wreckage at Andersen, said Jeanne Ward, a resident in the northern village of Yigo who was on the base visiting her husband.

Ward said she didn't witness the crash but noticed a rising plume of smoke behind the base's air control tower.

She said crowds began to gather as emergency vehicles arrived. "Everybody was on their cell phones, and the first thing everyone wanted to know was did the pilots make it out in time," she said.

The Air Force, without identifying the pilots, said one was medically evaluated and released, and the other was in stable condition at Guam Naval Hospital.

A board of officers will investigate what caused the bat-like aircraft to crash at 10:30 a.m., shortly after taking off from a runway. It was the first crash of a B-2 bomber, said Capt. Sheila Johnston, a spokeswoman for Air Combat Command at Langley Air Force Base in Virginia.

All 21 stealth bombers are based at Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri, but the Air Force has been rotating several of them through Guam since 2004, along with B-1 and B-52 bombers.

The rotations are designed to boost the U.S. security presence in the Asia-Pacific region while other U.S. forces diverted to fight in the Middle East.

The B-2 was first publicly displayed in 1988 and took its first flight a year later. The first bomber was delivered to Whiteman in 1993.

The bombers on Guam were scheduled to return to Missouri now that six B-52s from the 96th Bomb Wing at Barksdale Air Force Base, La., have arrived to replace them.

The distinctive B-2 is described as a "multi-role bomber" that blends stealth technology with a highly efficient aerodynamic design. It is able to deliver large payloads at great range and has been used in combat over Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq.

The accident occurred 11 days after a Navy plane crashed into the ocean about 20 miles northeast of Guam's Ritidian Point. Four aircrew members ejected from the EA-6B Prowler electronic warfare aircraft and were rescued by helicopter.

Guam is a U.S. territory 3,700 miles southwest of Hawaii.
 

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Just a few things to point out:

1. If it flies, then it can crash. The loss of a stealth bomber was bound to happen sooner or later. They're over 20 years old. I'm not saying that's old, but they have been flying for that period of time without a single loss, including combat in Kosovo & Iraq. That's a pretty good track record.

2. Thank God, both the pilots survived in pretty good shape. That will prove invaluable in determining the cause of the crash.

3. With every aircraft crash, as the cause is determined, those findings will prevent the same problem from causing addtional aircraft losses in the future.

When the B-52 first came out in the 1950's, it didn't have a real good track record. Many aircraft were lost over the years for various reasons, mechanical failures, procedural errors, and even crew errors. But with every aircraft accident, a lesson was learned. Over time, with the learning of more & more lessons, fewer & fewer B-52's were lost due to non-combat loses. It has been about 20 years since the last B-52 crashed and that is with an aircraft about 25 years old at the time. All remaining B-52's are now at least 46 years old and still going strong, by in large due to the lessons learned over the years.
 

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It really is amazing that with all the new techonology on them that this is the first crash. Thank goodness the pilots got out safely.

I do have to admit, I would not want to be known as the guy that crashed the first B-2/
 

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....I do have to admit, I would not want to be known as the guy that crashed the first B-2.


I would be totally shocked if the cause of the crash was determined to be pilot error. My last pilot flew these things up until about 3 years ago. The selection process for the B-2 is probably more stringent than any other selection except that for astronauts. I also knew a few of the other pilots from my B-52 days before they went on to fly the B-2. And I can honestly say they were "cream of the crop". No "hot sticks" or "jocks", just smart, good, level-headed, skilled pilots.

Judging by where the smoke was coming from in the news video of the crash, I know that it crashed in the middle of the airfield at Guam. The last B-52 that crashed about 1988 was in the middle of airfield right on the runway and it was a mechanical issue.
 

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I would be totally shocked if the cause of the crash was determined to be pilot error. My last pilot flew these things up until about 3 years ago. The selection process for the B-2 is probably more stringent than any other selection except that for astronauts. I also knew a few of the other pilots from my B-52 days before they went on to fly the B-2. And I can honestly say they were "cream of the crop". No "hot sticks" or "jocks", just smart, good, level-headed, skilled pilots.

Judging by where the smoke was coming from in the news video of the crash, I know that it crashed in the middle of the airfield at Guam. The last B-52 that crashed about 1988 was in the middle of airfield right on the runway and it was a mechanical issue.


B52=my favorite plane ever. Love the sound and the profile.
 

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I recently saw a news article about the B-2 crash. It says there was a fire that started during takeoff. Seconds later, control of the aircraft was lost and it started banking to the right. At that time the pilots decided it was time to "get outta Dodge" and they ejected.
 

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tail gunner,
a buff went down around '94 at Farichild.
Pilot error, banked too hard doing a flyby and nosedived at the edge of the WSA.
 

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tail gunner,
a buff went down around '94 at Farichild.
Pilot error, banked too hard doing a flyby and nosedived at the edge of the WSA.

You're right, I had forgotten about that one. But none the less, the pilot crashed that one. I knew the guy back around 1980. He went one on to be a reckless and dangerous pilot doing things that went way beyond what was safe.

There was nothing wrong with that airplane. The jackass in the pilot seat killed himself and took at least 2 others with him.

on edit: You can see in this YouTube B-52 video, how dangerous this jackarse was. There are many examples of flyovers at too low altitudes, excessive bank angles, excessive climb angles and even in one steep climb, it appears he does a barrel roll just as he's disappearing into the clouds. If that idiot tried any of that crap while I was on the same airplane, I would have buried the pointy end of the escape axe in his helmet.
 
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I remember reading & hearing about that Hot Dog, TG. (Flat Hatter, Navy calls'm). Many other B-52 crew types wouldn't fly with him. IIRC, He was On Notice for his actions when he Cart-wheeled that one in. Took the innocent crew members in with him. What an Azz.
 

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they use him as an example of what not to be like for training now.
I was stationed at FAFB working in the WSA at the time too.
It was a sight and smell never to be forgotten
 
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