6.0 Turbo Upgrade?

[NHKR]

Has anyone heard about this turbo replacement/upgrade from ATS? It's supposed to be a complete kit to replace the stock VGT turbo. MSRP is supposed to be $2995. If it works as advertised, wonder if this could be a solution to all of the VGT related complaints?

2003 to 2006 Ford 6.0L Diesel Turbo Kit
The ATS Aurora 6.0L turbo up-grade kit produces huge power while providing quick response. The Ford 6.0L engine is notorious for poor turbo response, Extreme Exhaust Gas Tempatures and inconsistent variable vane response resulting in poor economy and reliability. This kit comes complete with all of the parts to up-grade the stock 6.0L Ford to the perfectly matched Aurora 2000 Turbo. Turbo response, midrange and top end is unmatched by any other turbo. The 6.0L ATS Aurora 2000 turbo kit comes complete with everything necessary to install on a 2003 to 2006 6.0L Powerstroke engine. The problematic factory variable vane turbo charger is now a problem of the past. The number one problem with the factory variable vane turbine housing is the extreme redirection that the air must take to strike the turbine wheel. When the exhaust is forced to change directions in such a radical way there is a pressure wave that is created. This pressure wave causes heat to build in the exhaust manifold. The Aurora 2000 turbo charger kit relieves the high pressure restriction created by the factory variable vane turbo charger. The perfectly matched Aurora 2000 turbo charger allows the Ford 6.0L to breathe, producing huge power and low EGT's. Towing extreme loads without the fear of overheating is now possible with the Aurora 2000 turbo kit.

 

[bushpilot]

Interestingly enough i cant say ive got any of the problems they claim are
so "notorious"....the whole purpose of a VariVane Turbo is to provide faster
spool up (less lag)...getting rid of the varivane would certainly reduce
"bottom end"

and from what everyone else reports (and i compare mine too) i dont have
any "extream" EGT issue either...

still its good to have aftermarket replacement parts but...
id be interested in knowing what they do to the computer to avoid
codes triggering if theyre doing away w/ the VGT and its associated
hardware...certainly the vgt, egr & ebp work hand in hand...

 

[NHKR]

Agreed, thats why I was asking. I notice they talk about mid and upper range improvements, but not bottom end. The only turbo problem I've had so far (28K miles to date) was I would get the turbo flutter all the time when backing out of the throttle, even under light load. It started doing it occassionally even when accelerating so I took it to Ford. They replaced the VGT actuator, said it was sticking, now it seems fine. But I do worry when I see all of these other people having ongoing turbo problems. I work mine hard but don't abuse it. This is my 3rd PSD and the only time I've ever had an engine problem

 

[powerboatr]

Interestingly enough i cant say ive got any of the problems they claim are
so "notorious"....the whole purpose of a VariVane Turbo is to provide faster
spool up (less lag)...getting rid of the varivane would certainly reduce
"bottom end"

and from what everyone else reports (and i compare mine too) i dont have
any "extream" EGT issue either...

still its good to have aftermarket replacement parts but...
id be interested in knowing what they do to the computer to avoid
codes triggering if theyre doing away w/ the VGT and its associated
hardware...certainly the vgt, egr & ebp work hand in hand...

ditto
my egts are very low, I have a hard time getting close 1300 and very rare over 1350 even pulling the rv, boost hangs at 30 max but mostly 20's
my lag is very low now that i have learned to anticpate starts off the line,


as for mid range..... WOW, if i press teh go pedal she GOES pushes you back in the seat and moves out, it stays in OD and just goes,

 

[bushpilot]

The only VGT/Boost issue i have was a sticking EGR valve...it caused
my EGT's to run about 100* higher (while towing 8k lbs) and even THEN
i never saw temps greater than 1100* (that occured under heavy
throttle pulling long grades on the interstate).

as soon as i temporarily disconnected the egr valve i was running cool
& my boost/drive-ablity issues went away.

a LOT of professional engine builders will tell you you wont gain ONE
thing w/out giving up something else...you may gain horsepower but
youll give up MPG...you may gain top end but youll typically surrender
bottom end...in the world of hp you dont get something for nothing...

 

[NHKR]

So Bushpilot, I've read that quite a few people have disconnected their EGR valve, and you did too. Whats the benefits of doing that? And what are the downsides of doing it? Where is the EGR and how do I disconnect it?

 

[bushpilot]

Mine's connected (honest).

I disconnected it as a trouble shooting "step" (to prove what item was
failing) and as a necessarily step to get "home".

I had the problem when i was towing a car (on my 18ft utility trailer)
for a friend from houston to virginia.

The dealer replaced the fail(ing) egr valve under the 3/36 warrenty.