2 Stroke oil as a diesel additive???

[Scot]

I'd love to burn bio-diesel, but it isn't available at retail here in DA U.P.

There is a new bio-diesel plant down in either Gladstone or Rapid River, but they are only selling to fleet customers. So regular guys like me can't get any yet.

So I think I'm going to give the TCW-III 2-stroke oil a try. I can get the stuff at an employee discount at work, plus I can shop for the best deal. So I can get all I need for dirt cheap. But even for other folks, TCW-III can be had very affordably at many places like Walmart, Tractor Supply, Fleet Farm, etc. when bought in one or two gallon jugs.

Not much better in the LP. Last year I burned 7K in fuel and only found Bio at 4 stations. I do love the smell of 2 stroke motors!! Can we make my 6.0 smell like them?

 

[Tail_Gunner]

Did he have his own testing done in a lab or what? What kind of "research?" Was it additive reformulated for ULSD? Was it just the general additives or the lubricity additives? Most companies have many different ones like Bill mentioned the FPPF lubricity additive Stanadyne has a similar product.

Now if he worked in a fuel shop and had torn down some pumps or injectors that had ULSD with and w/o additive he could have the parts put under scope to see how bad scoring is with various additives.


5% biodiesel would be better lubricity than additive IMO.

Instead of just talking around the subject, I figure I'd be doing everyone a greater service by just posting links to the discussions I had found and let y'all read them for yourselves.

The first discussion thread is: HERE. The third post has a link which send you HERE which is another discuusion on the same subject.

THIS is the guys webpage where he talks about his study and findings.

Read & Enjoy

 

[bling821]

I wan't to make my truck last as long as it can but I know that there will be a day... That being said, will the cost of adding so much of the 2 stroke oil offset the cost of getting the engine rebuilt? At the normal time for an engine overhaul, will you have already spent that much on the 2 stroke oil? How many more miles will it get you anyway? I suspect it might not be enough to make it worth it. I haven't done any research on the cost of the oil but these are some things that came to mind. Its all a good idea and it makes you feel good inside but is it really worth all of the effort?

Other things, does your engine get used to it and what happens if you fill up a few times without it after a few thousand miles of use? Kind of like switching back and forth from synthetic oil to the real stuff is commonly assumed to be a no no. What's it going to do to the new 6.4's rediculous emissions equipment? Will the stuff burn clean out or leave a film in the exhaust? clog up the cat? (if you still have one) Just some things that came to mind while reading the posts.

At any rate, I can still get #2 at the Pilot truck stop so I'm not worried about this anytime soon. The bio-diesel plant should be opened up here any day now and I'm going to start testing that out as soon as I can. Maybe I won't ever have to burn ULSD unless in a pinch.

 

[dpantazis]

1 oz/gal is 128:1. adding 2 cycle oil will reduce cetane, so more 'dieseling' from the engine. add cetane booster if you care.

Mopar1973Man's info is good. his numbers on lubricity are good to show how lubricicity has changed.

but so what? his truck uses a ROTARY injection pump, like the 6.9 and 7.3 IDI's. PSD's dont have rotary pumps

if you use a diesel additive that lubricates as well as raises cetane, then you are good- no need to double dose. i use howes year round.

you'd think that the engines designed to RUN on USLD would also have components designed to last with USLD. somewhere, i came across some FAQ from IH that said exactly that- that their new fuel systems were designed to run with usld and to some extent bio.

there was a guy at Central Mich U that did REAL research, using electron beam microscope to look at wear parts of VW parts, but i have lost track of him. http://pics2.tdiclub.com/gwillie/TDIpage.htm

dp

 

[Crumm]

I use howes year round.

I also run Howes year around. I use two stoke oil in my 2-stroke boat engine though I have a very hard time dumping anything in my fuel tank that was not intended to go in there such as ATF and 2-stroke oil but guys have been doing it for years.

 

[95_stroker]

Go on over to Oilburners and poke around in the IDI forums and the Fuels and additives forums, those guys been burning everything but candle wax in their trucks for years. I know, different injections systems but....... the reading and info is on our sister site which is a nicer place to hang out.

 

[firemediceric]

Does anyone have long term results running the 2 cycle oil as an additive in a DI engine?

 

[JLDickmon]

I don't see where it would hurt anything at all, really... when you think about it, diesel fuel is oil... and rice oil is designed to be burned in an engine...

 

[DragonSlayer]

Don't know what to think about the additives. Is there any proof of the lack of lube in the ULSD? Or is this seculation? I personally did not notice any differance in the new or old fuel, so I don't know weather to add anything or not.