06 f250????

cdudley

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i bought an 06' f250 diesel in december of 05'.. i am having problems! when i leave from a light is running wierd. sounds like the rpm's are way up, and it is making a wierd sound like maybe the turbo is not kicking in.. i also have lost about 1.5 miles to the gallon in the last 2-3 weeks.... any suggestions??
 

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yep
go see your dealer.
Did you get the last recal done for emission?
and do you drive it like it was stolen a few times a weeks?

the latest recall programmig is much better and cures alot of what your describing.


plus drain the fuel filter,
how many miles are on it now???

new style filter drain bolt
6E7Z9C082A
bolt
 

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not much!! about 12k... i have never had it in the shop, but i am taking it today at 4pm... about3 hours away...
 

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Just a question, but how much does yours smoke at night? At night you can really see a nice cloud in the lights behind me. My truck was built in January, and other than some driveline vibration issues has not given me any troubles. Mileage I'm not exactly thrilled with, but it's starting to move around a bit, it seems to like Exxon fuel... like 2.5 mpg improvement over all others.

The only thing I don't like about mine is when I press the go pedal, I can count to almost 3 before it plants you and takes off. That just seems a bit slow to me.
 

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Kleetus said:
Just a question, but how much does yours smoke at night? At night you can really see a nice cloud in the lights behind me. My truck was built in January, and other than some driveline vibration issues has not given me any troubles. Mileage I'm not exactly thrilled with, but it's starting to move around a bit, it seems to like Exxon fuel... like 2.5 mpg improvement over all others.

The only thing I don't like about mine is when I press the go pedal, I can count to almost 3 before it plants you and takes off. That just seems a bit slow to me.

do you roll into a take off or just plant the right foot?

I found if you hit the throttle lightly then roll inot a normal take off it doesnt lag near as much and feels peppier

but if i just drop the hammer she will go 1, 2 , BAm were off:eek:


and i get ZERO smoke, cept getting onit pulling the rv and thats even rare, mostly a light brown soot when she is running hard. and temps astay lowe with 30lbs or more of boost
i need more fuel ;)
 

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when I press the go pedal, I can count to almost 3 before it plants you and takes off. That just seems a bit slow to me.

call me a pus, but that is a sure-fire way to toast a variable vane turbo.

NEVER go from 0 to WOT from a standstill. sure it feels fun, but what you are effectively doing is surging the turbo. the vanes close soo quickly, that the airflow becomes almost non-compressible and you risk schrapnelling the impeller.

the vanes are susceptable to coking up if they don;t move often, ie not excersing the the turbo to provide much boost, you need to do an italian tune up regularly to dislodge the soot and free up the vanes. if you drive on the highway at regular frequency, then you're ok.

you NEED to have the revs up a bit before you wail on it. like robert said, roll into it and you will be fine.

dennis
 

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Hmmm I'm not sure I follow the non compressible gas theory... if the engine is at idle it's passing x cfm of gas (exhaust) through it. You close the vanes, that same volume of gas is still coming in. Now as the engine picks up speed, obviously more gas will flow, linear pressure increase until the turbo starts to come on line, then it goes exponential increase. It's not like water where you close a ball valve and BANG, water hammer, and the pipe resonates. Well, let me say it this way, not at the pressure levels we're talking about here anyway. A couple hundred pounds or more? That's called an explosion... I HOPE we don't have that at the head end of our turbos! :eek:

So, what's the difference if I'm at 1200 rpm and hit it vs idle? Once the turbo is at its minimum effective speed, response is the same rate of increase, PSI per second. The driven unit is stainless steel, and the compressor wheel is aluminum. I've never heard of a turbo going boom without something hitting it, or loosing a bearing and the wheel hitting the housing... unless it's screwed from the factory cracked, out of balance, end play, etc...

If you have a vehicle with a stick, and you're pulling a good load from a stop, once the clutch is out, (which should take less than 3 sec) You're full into it, and then you come completely out of it to hit the next gear and you repeat. That is way harder service, and much greater pressure and rpm change than you'd have with an automatic. :burnit

Rolling into it gradually does give a smoother response, but it's still not answering why it takes 3 seconds in the first place. Granted I know I'm dragging almost 4 ton empty around, but still... We had a 97 PSD in a 13,000# ambulance, and when you hit it from a stop, it went, no questions asked.

As far as smoke goes. I never see any in daylight, so far anyway. It's at night from about 1/3 throttle up that I can see it behind me in the lights. Just wondering if that is normal or not. :dunno
 

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