Towing question

[Capricious]

My friend has an 01 F250 PSD with 80k miles and will be towing a tractor and trailer totaling 29k pounds. He has all the necessary components taken care of to accomplish this; suspension,tranny,exhaust,guages,and he has added a superchips tuner. My question is what are the max EGT and tranny temps he should avoid while towing this rig around. It will be towed around town within a 40 mile radius, so about half highway, and half in town towing. guys.

 

[Crumm]

Max EGT- 1250 pre-turbo or 1000 post-turbo. You can go up to 1350/1100 for short bursts but don't hold it there for extended periods.

Max Transmission-225 but it would be better to stay under 200. 225 is red-line.

 

[powerboatr]

out of curiosity, what suspension and tranny things were accomplished to allow the truck to pull 29k lbs?

GCVWR for that rig is 20k and that includes truck and trailer,
not saying the truck cant pull it, jsut if its 29k for the tractor and trailer you are WAY over weight.
if your saying its 29k for the combined rig, your still way over weight.

but crumm is right 1250 is a ideal range, gives you some fiddle factor

what type brakes you running on the trailer?


thanks
self proclaimed tow master

 

[Crumm]

GCVWR for that rig is 20k and that includes truck and trailer.

I didn't figure it would take long for someone to jump in with these figures Overweight? Yes. As overweight as some guys? No. There are hotshot guys out there running 26K on a daily basis and some up around 34K(my father-in-law is one of them). I would not put my truck through this torture, I would use a bigger truck but this feller ask "My question is what are the max EGT and tranny temps he should avoid while towing this rig around" so that is what I answered.

 

[powerboatr]

yep I agree
like i said its not a question of IF it can pull it, its more of a question
why not use the correct rig for the job,
as i tow more and more, i find more and more scary rigs, that blatently risk others life or limb, thats the only reason i said it, its a "stop and thinker"
29k behind a pickup is frankly nuts, even at 45 mph,, its just as bad here in bama, 1/2 tons pulling 35-40 foot hay bail trailers, tires flat with wt and rear bumper teasing the asphalt.

and I hate to be a P RICK, but i will be one of the first people at an accident involving a pickup pulling a load that is overweight, asking for a certified weight testas part of the investigation, even i was not involved.

 

[Hoss 350]

My friend has an 01 F250 PSD with 80k miles and will be towing a tractor and trailer totaling 29k pounds. He has all the necessary components taken care of to accomplish this; suspension,tranny,exhaust,guages,and he has added a superchips tuner. My question is what are the max EGT and tranny temps he should avoid while towing this rig around. It will be towed around town within a 40 mile radius, so about half highway, and half in town towing. guys.

It's an F-250! I don't haul my 4-wheelers or my boat behind my wife's Golf for a reason! Would it get the job done? Probably, but what happens when I have to stop fast, and hard, and right now?

It is a little ambiguous what your weight is in the way you described it. Is the tractor and trailer together 29K? Or is the total weight, with truck included 29K?

Not that it makes much difference, because grossly overloaded is grossly overloaded, but if it is the tractor and trailer alone, then he is going to be up around 36K! I drove an L8000 that felt scary at 36K, I am not even going to imagine what an F-250 would feel like.

My advice is don't do it. I hate to think my wife drives around on the same roads as guys like your friend. I've seen pictures of what happens to light pickups when they hit the brakes with loads like that, picture the trailer pointing at the sky and the truck doing a headstand (and this was from low speed). It just isn't worth it. If he is going to be hauling this trailer, he needs to get more truck. Minimum F-550, but i would even recommend medium duty chassis for this load. Even a 350 dually is too light, IMHO.

 

[Capricious]

I totally understand all your concerns, but I'm just helping the guy out. He is actually a friend of a friend. I also mentioned the fact that he is way overloaded. The 29k is just the tractor and the trailer, not the truck. He just asked me temp questions and that's why I asked. I know for a fact he got a BTS tranny and he also upgraded his springs along with airbags. That's about all I know. Thanks for the reply on the original question.

Bobby

 

[powerboatr]

thats one heavy tractor and trailer,
Med duty or OTR would be best.

 

[Hoss 350]

I totally understand all your concerns, but I'm just helping the guy out. He is actually a friend of a friend. I also mentioned the fact that he is way overloaded. The 29k is just the tractor and the trailer, not the truck. He just asked me temp questions and that's why I asked. I know for a fact he got a BTS tranny and he also upgraded his springs along with airbags. That's about all I know. Thanks for the reply on the original question.

Bobby

Fair enough. Sorry for the diversion earlier, sounds to me like you've already tried to let him know he is stup- err, ill-advised....

Anyway, if it were me, I'd take another pass at trying to talk him out of it when you give him the info you got from the guys that actually bothered to answer your question, rather than go off on a rant like I did.