New Holland on B100

[CHPMustang]

New Holland last month announced it supports the use of B100 biodiesel in all equipment with New Holland-manufactured diesel engines, including electronic injection engines with common rail technology.

Overall, nearly 80 percent of the tractor and equipment manufacturer's New Holland-branded products with diesel engines are now available to operate on B100 biodiesel.

Also last month, tractor and equipment maker John Deere clarified its position for customers that want to use biodiesel blends up to B20. While B5 is the manufacturer's preferred blend, biodiesel concentrations up to a 20 percent blend (B20) in petroleum diesel fuel can be used in John Deere engines through Tier 3/Stage III A models, including all non-emissions-certified engines.

Biodiesel blends up to B20 can be used only if the biodiesel (100 percent biodiesel or B100) meets ASTM D6751, according to company reports, and if an additive by John Deere is used. John Deere strongly encourages purchasing biodiesel blends from a BQ-9000 marketer and to source from a BQ-9000 designated producer.

 

[Zookie400]

james (79broncoidi) will flame me for this, but F_ _ _ JOHN DEERE. nothing dies like a deere!

I will always run New Holland stuff, in my opinion it is by far the BEST available.

it makes me very happy to hear that ford is doing something that good ol' henry would have done himself.

 

[RoyBoy]

Being a former and present New Holland tech, I suppose a reply is in order. Basically my take on New Holland's, well CNH's (CaseIH/ New Holland) technology is this: they figured out that they better get up to speed or die. I'm glad to see that they have taken this step, but there are many more needed...
I have a very close friend that is the lead tech at a large NH dealership (where I used to work) and there are still some huge gaps in technology/ support, times where he is telling NH how to solve serious problems (yes he is a top-notch tech)

Another example is that CNH just started an online parts catalog system accessible to anyone, while JD has had one for several years... I made alot of noise with NH (of course such resources help an independent shop like mine immensely) but the silly thing is that it still does not offer pricing and dealer ordering, whereas JD has offered this all along...

We always referred to CNH as "the Roman Empire" as it is now owned by Fiat...

Of course both JD and CNH seem to think that they only need huge dealerships, so you keep seeing all the smaller guys pushed out...its a shame
They better just keep at it or, the end will be soon for them...

OK, I'll settle down now

 

[roosterdiesel]

The sad part is that the injection manufacturers(Bosch and Denso) CNH uses have not recognized over B5. CNH will be covering any pump or injector failures out of their own pocket. Expect fuel samples to be taken.

Also...BQ9000 certification is a crock! A big producer pays the NBB BIG $$ to get certified, then NBB comes to their facility ONCE a year to pull samples. Which leaves the other 364 days a year for the certified producer to cut corners and produce low quality fuel.

We'll see how this goes.

 

[RoyBoy]

The sad part is that the injection manufacturers(Bosch and Denso) CNH uses have not recognized over B5. CNH will be covering any pump or injector failures out of their own pocket. Expect fuel samples to be taken.

With all respect Antonio, I highly doubt CNH would dive into this without being backed by their vendors, I fully understand what you are saying, but knowing the mega- dollars that are involved in warranty costs, it would seem highly unlikely that they would do this. They are becoming so EXTRAORDINARILY tight on warranty coverage (I witnessed a NH warranty audit firsthand, took a month with 3 reps there). I also began to think of all the CDC (aka Cummins) engines they still use (TJ and TG series tractors) but then realized that these probably are not included... basically they are talking about their Genesis (or whatever they call them now) engines, and perhaps their skid steer line.
Link to original release
The key I see here is this:

New Holland has also asked other suppliers of diesel engines used in New Holland-branded products to test and approve higher levels of biodiesel.

Apparently they HAVE gotten approval from their other suppliers, well at least for the ENGINE part (they build them) but what about the FUEL part?? I would susupect that they did...

 

[bushpilot]

technology SHOULD be an ENABLER not a cost of doing biz...
as soon as companies begin to figure that out theyll be a LOT more
successful & theyll increase their reach *AND* profit !

 

[roosterdiesel]

Apparently they HAVE gotten approval from their other suppliers, well at least for the ENGINE part (they build them) but what about the FUEL part?? I would susupect that they did...

I work at an authorized service dealer for Bosch, Nippondenso, Stanadyne and Delphi. As of this month we have received no info for recognizing above B5 when doing any warranty work.

I was at Stanadyne school back in October at our central distributor. I asked what was recognized...B5. They told us we will recieve a service bulletin if anything of higher concentration is recognized. We saw a Delphi DP210 last month seized, it was from an Air Force base that ran bio in it and the dealer of the equipment refused warranty.