Diesels Under Pressure in US, revisited

[Scarlet_Nape]

Diesels Under Pressure in US-popcorn

 

[oi8228oi]

cant wait to see some get here... damn diesel regulation

 

[02SilverStroke]

cant wait to see some get here... damn diesel regulation

I'll be glad to see diesels offered by every manufacturer. Since diesel is considered an "alternative" fuel, you'd think the government would offer tax breaks like they do the hybrids.

 

[oi8228oi]

they would but toooo many of them are around.... there all ready talking of taking the tax incentive on hybrids away next year......

 

[BJS]

I'll be glad to see diesels offered by every manufacturer. Since diesel is considered an "alternative" fuel, you'd think the government would offer tax breaks like they do the hybrids.

unfortunately diesel is not considered an alternative fuel or not according to the CFFA (Clean Fueled Fleet Act) and neither is bio diesel.

Tax breaks won't be offered just like they aren't offered for e85 vehicles because it will still run on #2 they tax breaks were set for a given number of years for hybrids and are only significantly beneficial on the highly economical hybrids like the prius & insight, there is little to no tax break for the hybrid suv's and the hybrid chevy truck because the technology does not significantly improve mileage. The tax breaks were intiated for a finite span and have been extended once to stimulate the purchase of the new technology but as it becomes more commonplace the tax benefits will dissapear as has already been indicated.

I don't see tax breaks for the diesel technology, however having talked with owners of the new MB CDI diesels you will find many savy businessmen who are diehard diesel guys who have the money to talk with their wallet which will bring the technology to the masses.

 

[dpantazis]

yeah but for how long?

the hybrid tax break is a st00pid idea- here is why: the motor fuel tax made sense when all things were equal and we all got about the same fuel economy.

you buy a car that gets 2x the gas mileage, then you are only paying 1/2 of the fuel 'use' tax per mile driven. long term- less money going to the transportation funding meaning an already failing system fails even more.

disclaimer: i drive a tdi jetta that consitently gets 45mpg+ so i am somewhat guilty too.

granted hybrids account for less than 2% of the vehicles on the road, but that equals a 2% shortfall in tax revenue. when we are talking about fed trans budget that approaches a trillion dollars, that is a significant figure.

at some point the whole thing is going to need to be revamped. but then again, the republicans are all about taxes and oil subsidies right?

just wait until the US starts taxing WVO/SVO like the europe does.

when will we see the Ford META ONE?
http://media.ford.com/newsroom/feature_display.cfm?release=19619

or how about the GM/Opel Astra?
http://www.gm.com/company/gmability/adv_tech/100_news/astra_011005.html

why again did GM 'skip' hybrid tech to go to straight to fuel cells?

dennis

 

[powerboatr]

I'll be glad to see diesels offered by every manufacturer. Since diesel is considered an "alternative" fuel, you'd think the government would offer tax breaks like they do the hybrids.

we used t get tax breaks from the irs on oil burners
i took it off my 1992, but some how in 02 it was gone

 

[dpantazis]

i neglected to add- the epa and cafe are providing grants for off-highway manufacturers to convert old dirty engines to new clean ones. i posted this a while ago. the source was enr. www.enr.com. i will try to dig up the article if anyone is interested.